I mean, sure, but what are we gonna do, vote for Kang?
Implement RCV, slay the 2-party system
Except the people who we need to implement it are rewarded by the duopoly
I can't find Biden's position on it, but the Obama administration he served in supported RCV. Democrats generally support RCV, Republicans explicitly oppose it. Many red states have outright banned it.
sure, they will all go vote for... the other guy with the exact same stance except even worse?
stupid claim
The third party (probably the Greens). Or not vote at all when they otherwise would have - that still means a lost vote for Biden. Young voters tend to be far less willing to accept the compromises imposed by first past the post voting systems.
The threat to Democrats is real.
Those people are stupid and will only make things worse for themselves.
If they do withhold votes which gets the Republican nominee elected, they’ll probably come to regret it if they have two brain cells to rub together.
People said for years to stop fucking around or we’ll lose abortion rights. Well….
Or they will vote for no one like I've seen so many do in the past. Stupid claim.
A-fucking-men.
They do this shit because they know they have us by the short hairs. "What are you going to do, vote for the actual fascists? You're going to vote for Mr.Corposhill bombyMcBombsalesman and like it."
From the perspective of realpolitik, I’m not convinced abandoning support for Israel will win him more votes from pro-Palestine groups than he loses from pro-Israel groups. Lots of moderate Americans support Israel implicitly.
Either way, it’s politically costly with no upside for him. I think Biden’s only hope on this file is for the Gaza war to end quickly before the next election, but I don’t see that happening. Looks like Israel’s plan is an indefinite multi-year occupation of Gaza under an authoritarian police state.
Electioneering a genocide will surely work in his favor.
I think neither will work in his favor politically. But honestly, given what I know about the American electorate, I unfortunately suspect that "pro-genocide" may be politically safer.
If you asked the average American what the difference was between Palestine, Hamas, Hezbollah and AL Queda, they wouldn't know. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but there sure are a lot of media articles that seem to be based on an American populace that doesn't match up to their logic.
In the perspective of realpolitik, he's fucked anyways. He's down >10 points with young voters, and currently below Trump in swing states polling (just 1 so far, could be meaningless as a metric, but still relevant). DNC will support Israel because they're a major political donor. The Ds went too hard to fast early in this conflict and it's too late to backpedal. He'll have to try really hard to either try to win back the young votes, or appeal to the moderates and never-Trump Republicans.
This whole election cycle is bizarre, nobody wants neither Trump nor Biden. Their favorability is abysmal, one's about to go to jail while the other appears to be half dead. I honestly wish we had decent 3rd party infrastructure and rank choice voting, but I don't think we'll be breaking through this 2 party bs this cycle.
If a third party stood any chance for president, this coming election would be the one. However, I wouldn't advise anyone to do so unless you really don't have the slightest preference somehow. There isn't a chance, it's just better than every other time but still 0.
Maybe looking for ceasefire? Accountability of how Isreal use billions of dollars? Maybe Nato can go there and slowly stop hamas with targetd attack?
There are a lot of options the biggest military in the world can decide on, and yet he doesn't show any sign of compassion or remorse of innocent human life.
So by not voting for Biden you’ll get trump. Trump just wants to ban all Muslims… so yea… good luck with that.
So by taking voters for granted you lose them. Condescend more, it will never stop working.
I am done voting for the lesser evil.
All it does is increase the overall evil.
We have been increasing the overall evil for FAR too long.
I saw comments just like this usher trump into office the first time.
I don't care.
Lesser evil rhetoric is horse-shit.
Not to mention Hilary wouldn't have been any better. If she got in office we would probably still be balls deep in war with Syria. She rigged the DNC and ushered in Trump.
Don't regret not voting for her. I do regret voting for Biden's genocide though.
Then have a real primary. If no one can beat Biden, what is there to lose?
I voted 3rd party in 2016, and guess what happened? Outside of organizing some massive vote for a 3rd party candidate, all you're doing is preaching to the choir. Ineffectively.
We do what we can.
Then force your party to support better candidates?
Elect better candidates in the primary? This year there is an incumbent. Let's defeat, not elect, the greater evil.
And the incumbent is massively funding genocide and is trying to make that funding a closed door black box process.
Don't support the rapist con artist fascist. Don't support the genocidal fascist.
Only support good people.
Don't support the rapist con artist fascist. Don't support the genocidal fascist.
Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Trump actually is those things, and not voting for Biden is equivalent to supporting him. Replace first-past-the-post then vote for whoever you like, until then your obstinance is stupid and self-sabotaging.
Then the party needs to address this better this time around.
That's what primaries are for.
The DNC is clandestine.
They hold a primary election to make you feel involved, then they throw a party and put forth whoever they feel like it.
Same model as the electoral college but with zero accountability instead of virtually no accountability.
All your vote does is inform The Party that you are buying their horseshit.
you can be done with it as much as you like but that doesn’t change reality… FPTP is absolute shit: vote for the lesser evil or you get the greater evil… that’s just the way it is
want something different? you have to change the system first
that’s just reality. deal with it or vulnerable people die and hate wins
Biden, your lesser evil, is making America bankroll the murdering of Palestinian children.
If you vote for Biden, you are making yourself accomplice in that.
Yes. Change the system. Stop voting for The Party.
cool cool cool so vote for trump and things get even worse for the palestinians
again, reality is fucked but that doesn’t change that it’s reality… work within the bounds of what’s possible rather than pissing into the wind because you don’t like the options
Not voting for Trump either...
Are we in the same conversation?
I explicitly said I refuse to vote for The Party.
Vote harderer Melkath! This time will be different then the last 13 times. Promise. Trust the neoliberal plan. It hasn’t… failed……us……… yet.
So, are they going to vote for a federal abortion ban, fascism, a hot civil war, and rollbacks of everything even marginally progressive?
I give this country fifty years before it splinters.
Tops.
We need your optimism.
Before? It's already been destroyed.
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