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[-] b00m@kbin.social 175 points 2 years ago

So if Iran goes full monty and China invades Taiwan while Russia is grinding down its population on the Ukrainian front, we'd have WW3 on our hands I reckon.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 129 points 2 years ago

That war is already underway, we just won't be calling it that until after..

[-] scifu@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago

Not really a world war until 10 countries are actively involved with 2 of them USA and China.

Right now usa is passive and china is not involved.

[-] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

We're in the lend and lease phase right now

[-] idealotus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I could see it being called a proxy world war. There's enough concentration of where support is coming from.

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

I think that’s just called a Cold War. We didn’t invade Vietnam because we actually give a shit about Vietnamese people, it was a proxy war with the USSR

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[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

And all of that because the US can't tell Israel to stop bombing civilians in Gaza.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago
[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Oh yes, exactly because of that! It may seem farfetched to come to that conclusion, but only if you look at things as isolated happenings instead of in a more global geopolitical scope.

Turkey, Iran and Egypt are eager to enter the stage. Their only repellent is the US' firm stance with Israel. But how long can this Mexican standoff be in place?

Israel has already cut Gaza in half and now they are going to increase the killings in the northern half in which still 1.1 million citizens live. The number of casualties will increase dramatically and the videos and images will ignite the region. One of the eager neighbors mentioned above might enter the stage, they might even jointly enter all at the same time.

What happens if Turkey, a NATO member, enters Israel? What are the implications of this?

China is smelling US weakness and can't wait for something like that to happen. They will immediately proceed with their plan of annexing Taiwan.

If that happens, Russia will mobilize with full force and there you have it - WW3.

All because America couldn't say to Israel to lift it's finger from the trigger.

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[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Way too broad a brush, mate.

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[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Don't forget the middle east

[-] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago

Was that not covered by "if Iran goes full monty?"

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago

I am sorry, I obviously can't read properly

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[-] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 12 points 2 years ago

Where in the world is Iran located?

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

I am sorry, I can't read

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[-] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago
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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 75 points 2 years ago

Is there any active or potential war the US isn't paying for?

The bulk of the US economy is based on taking money from working people and then consolidating it to billionaires that run defense corporations. So "paying for" it's basically just an engine for making rich Americans more rich.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well Taiwan can either go with the US or China. They've been wanting to stay independent from China for a while now so I don't think it's much of a surprise.

[-] deleted@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

Almost all countries other than USA, Russia, and China have to pick a side.

[-] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I mean Russia is pretty close to needing to pick a side.

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[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

Good. Even if nobody likes 'murica, their weapons work well enough to deter China from doing something stupid.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Imagine if the roles were reversed, and it was China arming i.e. Panama. How would you feel then?

(Because the USA has done a lot of "something stupid"s as well).

Edit: Folks, you can analyze the bigger picture without being a tankie. It's unfortunate that so many ex-Redditors would rather block and report any display of critical thought

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Imagine if the roles were reversed, and it was China arming i.e. Panama. How would you feel then

False equivalence, Panama's risk of being suddenly invaded in the current political climate is nearly zero. Taiwan (is #1), on the other hand, has to be ever vigilant. Also, Panama doesn't house the 'rightful' government of the US.

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[-] cjsolx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

If you're comparing China/Taiwan circumstances to USA/Panama I'm sorry but I cannot call that a critical thought. The only similarity is proximity.

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

So quietly that no one knows about it

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[-] JdW@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

Quietly? They have been doing so for at least 40 years. Everybody knew and knows.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

Give them a bunch of nukes and biological weapons and after they arrive send a message to the PRC

"Just a fyi, we sent them a 100 but they only received 80. Be a real shame if Taiwanese operators had planted them in randomly selected cities on the mainland."

It will be hilarious way to end the world.

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[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago

...and Israel, for that matter.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 43 points 2 years ago

At least Taiwan isn't an apartheid state.

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[-] TheBlue22 18 points 2 years ago

I mean, yeah, why wouldn't they?

Should we just let China carpetbomb Taiwan instead?

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


When US President Joe Biden recently signed off on a $80m grant to Taiwan for the purchase of American military equipment, China said it "deplores and opposes" what Washington had done.

It is sending a clear message of strategic clarity to Beijing that we stand together," says Wang Ting-yu, a ruling party legislator with close ties to Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen, and to US Congressional chiefs.

He says the $80m is the tip of what could be a very large iceberg, and notes that in July President Biden used discretionary powers to approve the sale of military services and equipment worth $500m to Taiwan.

But Dr Lai says it's possible to make educated guesses: Javelin and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles - highly effective weapons that forces can learn to use quickly.

A war-gaming exercise conducted by a think-tank last year found that in a conflict with China, Taiwan's navy and air force would be wiped out in the first 96 hours of battle.

The focus will switch to ground troops, infantry and artillery - repelling an invasion on the beaches and, if necessary, fighting the People's Liberation Army (PLA) in the towns and cities, and from bases deep in the island's jungle-covered mountains.


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[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Let’s hope this is enough of a deterrent…

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