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Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 161 points 1 year ago

Israel is no better than Russia.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 115 points 1 year ago

Except that Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie. Russia and hamas are aggressors.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago

Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie, Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine is reality.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

If you say so. Still it didn't worth it to plan and perform that October 7th aggression. To think how much time and resources that required and how much stuff could be done instead to actually improve the lives of Palestinians, it's sad and should be embarrassing.

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[-] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got temp banned from lemmy.ml for saying that. Basically said "except Ukraine didn't attack Russia first", then got the banhammer. A quick Google on their point (cant even remember what it was) and I knew it was bullshit. I blocked lemmy.ml right after

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[-] qnick@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

That's interesting considering that Hamas is one of the closest allies of the Kremlin.

[-] Why9@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago

You know as well as anyone that this has NOTHING to do with Hamas.

Their strategy of indiscriminate bombing would not be the answer if they wanted to kill Hamas only. There's absolutely no regard for civilians here. They're not destroying Hamas. They're eradicating the population of Palestine. Anyone who lives will rightly join Hamas and after this, honestly I can see why.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago

The Netanyahu government is currently doing an excellent job recruiting for Hamas.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Behavioral/policy similarity doesn't necessarily imply an alliance or partnership compatibility.

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Israel is worse than Russia. Russia, in contrast, looks downright reasonable.

In a few weeks, Israel has killed almost as many civilians as those that have died on both sides over the course of almost two years of the Russia-Ukraine war.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

.ca never fails to come up with the worst dogshit opinions.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Numbers don't lie.

Neither Ukraine nor Russia come even close to as bloodthirsty for civilian lives as Israel. Israel is killing civilians and killing Hamas fighters as collateral damage. Ukraine and Russia are killing each other's soldiers and killing civilians as collateral damage. They're not the same.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Numbers don't lie.

He says, using Hamas fantasy numbers.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Instead of being dismissive, why are they wrong?

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[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

eh, they havent threatened to nuke anyone... cant really say that about Russia

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[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago

The world is watching. No justice, no peace.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What exactly is justice in context of a war? And do you realize that absolute justice for all sides means that the war will never end?

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

You're right, I guess this is just the genocide we had to have.

/s

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[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

the world has never truly been at peace though - maybe prior to the evolution of bacteria, but I doubt it.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago

A poll published Friday found that only 49 percent of Israelis want to hold off on the ground offensive against Hamas, down from 65 percent last week.

Disappointing to say the least.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Entirely predictable though. Unlike previous rounds between Israel and Gaza, they haven't been targeting the rocket infrastructure. Hamas and PIJ have been bombing Israeli cities daily since October 7th. It doesn't get much coverage because most are intercepted and Israel intentionally censors most documentation of it - but you can find it in the liveblogs of most Israeli news sources.

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[-] Huschke@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Aliens exist and there are big signs around our solar system that say something like "Avoid that system, murderous apes".

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[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction

In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour

Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings

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[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

I guess the silver lining of this shitshow happening right as I joined Lemmy is that its giving me a massive list of hateful idiots and servers to block right out of the gate

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

Night bombings are always known to be the most accurate.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

Yeah - we should be glad that weapons technology actually evolved to a point, where carpet fire bombings of cities like Dresden or Hamburg (WW2) are a thing of the past.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget Tokyo! Those we're all war crimes interestingly enough.

Oddly the siege of Gaza may very well fall into that category with the amount of ordinance that's been dropped, although the terminology would likely be different due to the guided aspect.

Carpet bombing of cities, towns, villages, or other areas containing a concentration of civilians is considered a war crime[5] as of Article 51 of the 1977 Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions.[6][7][8]
The term obliteration bombing is sometimes used to describe especially intensified bombing with the intention of destroying a city or a large part of the city. The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing, including obliteration bombing.

Perhaps it might even get it's own unique term someday. I do find it quite similar from what I'm reading on the first instance of carpet bombing though, the bombing of Barcelona

Along with the variance of the times between each individual attack, this had a demoralizing effect on the civilian population, which suffered prolonged anxiety quite out of proportion to the number of bombs dropped over a long period of time. Coupled with the fact that there was little discernible military value in the choice of targets within the city, and the cessation of the attacks for no apparent reason

Edit: sorry meant to add this as well

The Italian bombers dropped 44 tons of bombs.[7] Rather than aiming at military targets, the Italians intended to destroy industrial areas of the city and demoralize the Republican side, in what some authors have described as the first aerial carpet bombing in history.[1] Their targets and declared objectives were military warehouses, arms factories, trains with soldiers, and the port, but civil buildings, cinemas, consulates, and theatres were also hit or destroyed during the bombing.[8]

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