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Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 161 points 11 months ago

Israel is no better than Russia.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 115 points 11 months ago

Except that Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie. Russia and hamas are aggressors.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago

Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie, Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine is reality.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

If you say so. Still it didn't worth it to plan and perform that October 7th aggression. To think how much time and resources that required and how much stuff could be done instead to actually improve the lives of Palestinians, it's sad and should be embarrassing.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Well you could say that with the money Israel is burning for the terrorist action these days it could have found a way to keep its citizens alive.. and still here we are.

These kind of arguments don't really help do much progress, do they?

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

You can't imagine how much money were burned on iron dome alone. All to save lives and try to show terrorists they should do something else with their lives.

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[-] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I got temp banned from lemmy.ml for saying that. Basically said "except Ukraine didn't attack Russia first", then got the banhammer. A quick Google on their point (cant even remember what it was) and I knew it was bullshit. I blocked lemmy.ml right after

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Bullcrap. Israel has been invading Palestine since 1949.

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[-] qnick@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago

That's interesting considering that Hamas is one of the closest allies of the Kremlin.

[-] Why9@lemmy.world 116 points 11 months ago

You know as well as anyone that this has NOTHING to do with Hamas.

Their strategy of indiscriminate bombing would not be the answer if they wanted to kill Hamas only. There's absolutely no regard for civilians here. They're not destroying Hamas. They're eradicating the population of Palestine. Anyone who lives will rightly join Hamas and after this, honestly I can see why.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 60 points 11 months ago

The Netanyahu government is currently doing an excellent job recruiting for Hamas.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Behavioral/policy similarity doesn't necessarily imply an alliance or partnership compatibility.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe take a look at the agreements between Russia and Israel about Sirya. Welcome to the real world btw.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 months ago

Israel is worse than Russia. Russia, in contrast, looks downright reasonable.

In a few weeks, Israel has killed almost as many civilians as those that have died on both sides over the course of almost two years of the Russia-Ukraine war.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

.ca never fails to come up with the worst dogshit opinions.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago

Numbers don't lie.

Neither Ukraine nor Russia come even close to as bloodthirsty for civilian lives as Israel. Israel is killing civilians and killing Hamas fighters as collateral damage. Ukraine and Russia are killing each other's soldiers and killing civilians as collateral damage. They're not the same.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago

Numbers don't lie.

He says, using Hamas fantasy numbers.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Numbers in fact do lie. Any knowledge of statistics 101 basic-ass shit sort of proves this

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

Instead of being dismissive, why are they wrong?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Everything any of these leftist fucks say is always wrong. It's impossible to quantify it all in one post, but here's the broad strokes.

  1. Hamas is a terror organization who steals from, tortures, and oppresses their own people. Hamas seeks to maximize civilian casualties however possible.

2: Israel is not committing (or even attempting) genocide. This one's especially bad because you'd have to be pants-on-head stupid to believe it. It's just pure, distilled, antisemitism.

3: Palestine isn't a country, was never a country, and only Israel has ever been interested in making them a country.

4: Russia and Israel are operating at exact opposite purposes. Russia is trying to rekindle the Russian Empire. Israel is just trying to not suffer genocide against a foreign regime that literally calls for genocide of Jews worldwide. When I say literally, I mean they literally put out a call to action after their attack for Jews to be attacked worldwide, prior to any Israeli military response.

5: Israel is acting with severe restraint compared to what the US would do if a foreign nation invaded and murdered 45,000 people in their homes. Adjusted for population size, that's what the comparable death toll would be in the US. We'd absolutely fucking level any country that did that. We fought WW2 over less. We fought Iraq and Iran over less than 10% of that

It's hard to call out specifics when every single thing every one of these people say is wrong.

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[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I will continue to be dismissive

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

So... you can't explain why they're wrong then? That just makes you look like an idiot.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

That is the conclusion you seem to have jumped to.

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[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

eh, they havent threatened to nuke anyone... cant really say that about Russia

[-] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 11 points 11 months ago

MAD isn't a threat? I thought that was the whole point

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago
[-] Phanlix@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Almost as bad as pursuing Ethnic Bioweapons research in the late 90s. As in designing diseases to wipe out people of specific ethnicity.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago
[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Much as I loathe Putin, he has yet to do anything this savage.

[-] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Invading a sovereign nation, killing innocents, bombing schools, hospitals, residential areas, forcefully relocating people, land grabbing, spreading dehumanizing propaganda, threatening to use nukes...

It is exactly the same thing what both Hamas and Israel have been doing.

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I hope when you realize what a batshit insane take this is, you feel bad enough to actually own it and grow as a person

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Whatever helps you and your coscience sleep my dear.

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