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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

The irony is that in 2028, a state with the same population as Canada might hold a referendum about leaving America. This trade dispute just might push California over the edge, and I am not talking about earthquakes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/24/country-of-california-secession-newsom-trump/77907859007/

and more recently

https://theharvardpoliticalreview.com/calexit-california-independence/

If America is so out of control and beyond the reach of the Rule of Law and the Constitution that it can elect Trump (recall that he is considered to be potentially a traitor to the Constitution by the Supreme Court), then it is definitely within the realm of possibility that California could separate.

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[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I sure wish his obituary would hurry the fuck up.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Dolly Parton died today. I wonder which would overshadow which if Trump died the same day

[-] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 2 days ago

There are no benefits to being a US State.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

There are if you are Alabama.

[-] scrodumb@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Oh yes. Relentlessly vote against government spending then elect whoever is going to secure your region the most government spending. Classic USA right wing voter. If they learned literacy at an appropriate age this would still happen, they're that stupid.

Wdym some people like being terrorized by the stasi/s

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile, Trump wants the benefits of being a president without doing the duties of one.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

Wdym, he duties all the time in the oval office. You can practically smell it.

[-] DragonAce@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago
[-] shirro@aussie.zone 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There are 300 million more morons who either support him or are doing nothing serious to get rid of him. At some point we have to question if Trump is the problem or a symptom of a wider issue.

[-] helpfulcamel@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

This is the question. We pretend that is a MAGA thing or a Republican thing. But this is a deeply systemic concern with America -- a hegemon finally opening acting like it. We're learning the hard way, that sharing a bed with an elephant, friendly or not, is a danger one way or the other.

[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Symptom of a wider issue

I don’t think that’s in question now

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

He only knows how to bully to get his way, without his previous handlers no way he'd give to some sort of deal that doesn't make him top dog.

So yes he's a moron. Someone smart would make a good trade deal to appease certain producers of their country to make it seem likes he's helping them.

Nah eff that says Trumpy Dump since he's unable to do one thing that doesn't massage his ego and get glorious rewards. Amusing cause he could do so much to help and thought of better and bask in it (like you've seen him when he walks on stage with that fucking stupid smile), but nope be a jerk make your billions, screw everyone, then bitch when people don't like you.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, trade has only ever benefited them and hurt us. That's why we've been trying to get out of it since the 80s.

[-] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 63 points 2 days ago
[-] mikenurre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Elbows up my friend.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

California secession is on the ballot every few years. I would be happy to separate but we probably need to take Nevada with us for water, unless Canada is willing to pipe us some.

[-] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Water is a trick. We have tons in Canada, and absolutely could pipe it, but it's not cost effective. The length and size the pipe would need to be is too much.

Desalinization is more effective, even with it's crazy high cost. Using ultra hv to transmit our power to you and you use that for desalinization would be more effective.

[-] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With the Colorado river drying up, you really think Nevada will be all that important? How much longer do you think you will still be able to get water from it? Desalination, water conservation, and water recycling (treat wastewater and use it for agriculture) and be free of the threat of Colorado water restrictions and climate change.

But I am sure a deal could be worked out with Canada, in the framework of free trade negotiations. We also have lots of energy to sell!!!! California and Canada have been great trading partners, until Trump messed everything up. I am sure a trade deal could be made in months, given enough incentive and cooperation.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

There’s already an agreement with Canada about the Columbia River, that Trump just barely avoided totally messing up.

The problem is, the Columbia, despite the Arrow Lakes reservoirs, will eventually go the same way as the Colorado. For coastal states and provinces, viable desalination is very much the future, as is improved moisture capture for when global warming hits the point where water is dumped at volume where it precipitates at all.

And despite Alberta, Cascadia isn’t really an advantage for BC; Canada’s strength is in its diversity. And Canada’s entire population is about the same as California’s, so any democratic nation made out of California and other states and provinces… would leave everyone but California at a disadvantage.

[-] scrodumb@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Won't stop me from dumping a century's worth of saltpetre downstream.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the mountain range in nevada catches a lot of rain and a lot of it trickles to California.

[-] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Unless they want to build dams all along the border, like Trump wants to build his fence, not sure they could stop the water from going where it is going to go.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Hopefully they would be happy to come with us, the other side is a big dessert so not a great trading partner. Either way I’m sure we could muster something to exchange with you guys for water (or energy to get water like you suggest). Aligning with the water kings on the continent honestly seems like a a no brainer for the whole country but here we are.

[-] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

It is my understanding that California ever did actually 'join' America of its own free will, it was given to America by Mexico as a 'prize'. If the gold rush had started a decade or two earlier...

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Unwilling unless you made an example out of orange county. We will not tolerate any Trump relics in the new world. Period.

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Cascadia need to be our own nation and secede from this toxic cesspool.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The northeastern states also need to break off. They can keep New Hampshire though.

[-] mikenurre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Las Vegas/Clark County will join without question. Washoe/Reno on the other hand... they'll probably join eastern Oregon in their attempts to join Idaho.

[-] mHtt@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

do you accept ice cube form?

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, classic way to transport water!

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Ah his usual response to someone not bowing to his demands; pathetic mud slinging.

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Rapist behaviour

[-] mHtt@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

Canada is guilty of being in close proximity to Donald Trump.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

Not just Canada! The UK, European countries, Asian countries, New Zealand, Australia, African nations and maybe even Greenland are all desperate to be allowed to pay to become US states. Indeed, it's the wish of every man, woman and child. ............ /s

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

With that kind of spin, it's only a matter of time before he gets dizzy and falls on his face.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

No we don't.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

La Riposte is coming

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