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submitted 4 days ago by TRAHR@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world

“As a trans man, I have the immense privilege of blending in. But these laws force me to choose between safety and obeying the law.”

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[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 111 points 4 days ago

That was the point, they wanted a loss loss situation for trans people.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago

Almost as though the goal was to criminalize trans people for existing.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's crazy, you irrational accusatory liberals will never have any credibility as long as you keep accusing your enemies of doing bad things and having evil motivations based entirely on the things they do and reasons they give internally for doing them. If you cant assume good faith of Heinrich 'skeletor' schlafly-morgoth and his industrial sea otter rape program maybe you just don't have a place in civilized debate.

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[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 76 points 4 days ago
[-] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 35 points 4 days ago

Love it but I prefer “You best respect my trans homies, before I change your pronouns into was and were”

I know those ain’t pronouns but they can’t read so fuck it

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

A slight rewrite can fix that

“ unless you wish to identify as was/were, you’d best respect my trans homies”

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago
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[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

The people who make these laws completely forget that trans men exist.

[-] nightlily@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

No they didn’t. The point of these laws is exactly what has happened in this article. It’s to force trans people in general to make an impossible choice and be pushed out of existing in public society. There is literally nothing about these laws that is expected to improve anyone’s safety - that’s just the cynical rhetoric used to stop liberals objecting.

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I don't think they care. It's all about scoring cheap political points

The fact police weren't even informed about the law says a lot about the priorities

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

The fact police weren’t even informed about the law says a lot about the priorities

It would be a hard sell to make me believe the police didn't know what was going on here. They're playing innocent in a difficult situation at best.

[-] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

Okay, this is exactly the kind of malicious compliance that I can get behind. Fucking legends.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 15 points 4 days ago

It's funny because it's barely even malicious compliance, it's just following the law 😭😭

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

yes, that's what malicious compliance is

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago

Well yeah but isn't it usually taking advantage of small technicalities within a law to cause disruption? This is literally taking the law at face value, as it was intended

[-] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Malicious compliance generally doesn't involve technicalities, just following the rules. The maliciousness comes from knowing that following the rules, exactly as they are written down, will cause problems and disruption, and then doing it anyway, allowing the rules to override things like common sense.

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[-] Dingo_Kidneys@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

Travelling the state, shitting for a cause. Big ups to the GOATs!

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago
[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 44 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Assholes don't care about bathrooms or they would simply make unisex ones with private stalls, open areas sinks, and complete view to the outside hallway. The safest and most reasonable option, but no here we are getting cops involved because people love being cruel.

[-] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago

We have that at the PDX airport!

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

PDX airport!

I have never been there, but I have seen photos and not only do they have the stall idea correct, the open area is beautiful. Just a really nice space.

[-] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

The airpory only recently got remodeled and they did a really good job of it.

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

Bonus points if having a small sink in a stall. Makes the process more hygienic and is invaluable in certain situations (mess, periods etc.)

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 45 points 4 days ago

Were they bothering anyone else using that restroom? I doubt it. Maybe the ones who watch everyone coming and going into such facilities should be investigated. Mind your own business, everyone has to relieve themselves. People are ridiculous.

[-] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago

As a dude with long hair, I walked into the stall and then heard the dude that I passed asking the service staff about me. He obviously did not see my beard. People really are ridiculous.

I am very much in favor of unisex toilets plus separated urinals. But we all know that you can't argue with people who create such laws specifically to make the lives of others miserable.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

"Don't report me cuz you wanna kiss me, you pervert. The bathroom is for peepee and poopoo, not kisses, you filthy man. No one kiss this guy, he'll make you do it in the bathroom."

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[-] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Start calling the cops for every person that uses the bathroom. After all, we can't be sure about their biological sex.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago

Seems logical to show the stupidity, but it could also backfire. You know how once cops get called to a scene, they have to find something wrong or someone to arrest. And that could easily be you since you called them. When people in legit danger have called the police and ended up getting shot, I'd say nope, leave them out of it.

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[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

THIS is a fucking powerful protest, good work fellas. <3

Fuck all the transphobes. It's such bullshit and tiring. And I'm a cis white dude, so I don't have to put up with this shit myself, and it's still tiring just to hear about it for decades and decades and decades. (Putting up with it is much worse is what I'm saying.....)

Mad respect to those that stood up (or.... sat down, tee hee hee) in protest. These guys are in the perfect position to make this statement and point out how ridiculous it all is.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Agreed. Pretty clever protest that reveals this was never about "banning the wrong gendered-person from using their preferred bathroom." It was always "ban the wrong-gendered person", and the corpo-protecting pigs played right into it.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As much as I get a little tired of men claiming to be victims of prejudice, though, I do have to admit that this seems to be one of the valid areas (among others). Transphobes are clearly not wanting transwomen in women's spaces, but then they also don't want transmen there. You can't have it both ways, at a minimum.

But I find my brain trying to be sympathetic (to the transphobes' fear of 'men' in women's spaces, be that transmen or transwomen, they seem to think all of them are "men") - and I have to say to that part of my brain (that has had decades of transphobia propaganda that I disagree with, but it still gets in the brain - in our culture) "What? No, fuck off. Humans with human rights. Everyone needs to pee. Good grief, just.... can we make bathroom stall doors actually private and unisex all the bathrooms? Because who gives a fuck, people need to pee in peace, LET THEM PEE IN PEACE"........

It's very frustrating living in this culture.

(I'd still argue, btw, that women face FAR more problems with misogyny than men do with misandry - but on the other hand, all misogyny and misandry is wrong, so it's hard to have nuanced debate sometimes)

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That and punishing gender nonconforming women, cis and trans. Plenty of “masculine” cis women end up getting treated like criminals too.

[-] chahn.chris@piefed.social 20 points 4 days ago

Is it illegal to use an opposite gendered restroom if I’m not trans?

Like if I’m a dude and look clearly like a dude and I walk into the women’s restroom is that illegal? What if it’s an emergency and then men’s room is full??

This whole thing is so stupid.

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As a father, there were times when my children were in diapers that I had to do exactly that. Because it wasn't until very recently that states started passing laws requiring changing stations be installed in both restrooms. And I wasn't about to change my child's diaper on the filthy floor of a toilet stall. Women were always very understanding about the issue.

It also wasn't until very recently that states started passing these laws about who can use which restroom. It's stupid and, as you can see from this story, it causes a lot more problems than it ever seeks to solve.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

An extreme faux pas, for sure; but acceptable with the right excuses, respect, and announcement.

Meanwhile making women who type ":3" 30 times a day go to the mens room when no one would bat an eye otherwise is just... Insanely unproductive.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Depends on the state. Around here (Maryland) there is no law against it. If the owner wanted to make a deal of it, they could maybe argue tresspess for entering despite the gendered sign telling you not to.

In practice, I've seen (presumably) cis men in the women's restroom to use the changing station as builders around here apparently are not familiar with the concept of fathers.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago

Depends on the state. In the one for the article, no.

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago

First it was the blacks, then more and more people had black friends.

Then it was gays, but more and more families had out gay people.

Now it's trans people, but this is a passing thing.

Who will these weirdos go after next?

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

These things pass because we organize, inform and fight. They don't pass on their own.

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Oh, of course they do. But there is more to it than that.

In the 50s not many gay people were out so it was easy for the Christian right to convince the masses they were child molesters and weirdos worthy of hell. By the 80s, Pride and community unity helped people come out of the closet and not be ashamed or afraid to show the world who they were. Lots of people were coming out of the closet and everyone had at least one gay person in their life. Now it's harder to convince someone that gay people are bad because they're exposed to more gay people and they see they're just like everyone else.

The mob is stupid. Awareness alone doesn't cut it. They need exposure as well.

[-] davad@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago
[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

The subjugation of women is a foundational element of capitalist exploitation.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Brave dudes! Good shit

[-] SayJess 13 points 4 days ago

Trying to find and point out logical gotchas to this hatred are a fools errand; the conservatives don’t care. Their base lacks empathy, so good luck appealing to any sense of decency that they [do not] have.

There needs not be any sort of train-of-thought, other than “Fuck the [derogatory words]”. They use words like “science”, “biology”, and “safety” to cloak their hatred in the appearance of law and order. It’s all a game for them, designed to erase us.

They will absolutely come for the rest of the LGBTQ+ community once we are gone. Obergefell will be next. And unless the establishment democrats grow a spine, or are replaced by progressives that will stand up for us, the steamrolling will continue.

That said, protests like these need to happen, and I commend those brave dudes.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago

I believe the adage is 'you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.'

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