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[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 83 points 2 weeks ago

How would he know?

Because, he’d have to know the answer and then willfully lie for his nose to grow. Alternatively, giving a confident answer when he doesn’t know would make his nose grow regardless of him being correct.

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 234 points 2 weeks ago

They actually get into this in the other panels that aren't posted. Having trouble finding non-reddit links to it though https://www.reddit.com/r/theotherendcomics/s/9X4C16J7yi

Also, not very experienced adding photos from my phone to comments but trying to attach screenshots

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

Lies of P is looking weird

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

This asks more questions than it answers lmao

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 6 points 2 weeks ago

And these scientists are sure as hell gonna work on answering them with that freaky deaky nose

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think in another comic, it was determined that it doesn't matter if he knew the answer. The nose knows the answer and changes size based on his answer.

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[-] notabot@piefed.social 20 points 2 weeks ago

This one and the OP have different amounts of nose growth. One of them is a lie. Is nothing sacred anymore!!?!

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, I have it on good authority from Verizon that 3 mm is the same as 0.3 mm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUpZg-Ua5ao

[-] BitUnWise@programming.dev 56 points 2 weeks ago

I've had conversations with my friends on whether his nose grows based on deception or the truth value of the statement. My friend and I with rather secular upbringings grew up thinking it was based on deception and my friends with rather extreme Christian upbringings grew up thinking it was based on the truth. Obviously a very small sample size but I do wonder if there is a correlation

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Christian thinks that belief = truth. News at 11.

[-] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think in this case it's the exact opposite. The secular friends believed it changed based on pinocchio's personal beliefs and attempted deceptions, while the christians apparently believed it changed based on whether his words reflected some absolute truth, regardless of his personal thoughts and beliefs. fwiw

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm saying that the Pinocchio nose thing is clearly based on his lying, i.e. on stating something he knows/believes to be false, not an objective truth. It is the theme of the story.

And all too commonly, Christian (and other) fundamentalists extend beyond mere faith into delusion where they lose track of what is their personal belief and what is ubiquitous accepted reality. Sometimes to the point that that they actually cannot accept that others simply don't believe in their deity. They genuinely think that their deity not only definitely exists, but such a fact is unquestionably apparent on the face of it to everyone and competely beyond reproach. So when one claims to be an atheist, or hold another faith, the only conclusion that they can come to is that you actually do know their deity exists and so your denial of them is either out of evil, misplaced anger, brainwashing (by evil men or the devil or something similar) or you are a grifter with some other agenda. Whatever it is, it most certainly can't be a sound, justified, reasonable lack of belief in their god. That's nonsense.

Again, that's not all of them, but any means. But it's not uncommon either.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 2 weeks ago

Based on the small sample size of arguments I've personally had with proud theologians, I absolutely think this is true.

[-] BillyClark@piefed.social 33 points 2 weeks ago

The other advantage is that the more he lies, the more free firewood you can get.

[-] deacon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

You monster.

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Shades of Cassidy's involuntary salami slices in the Preacher TV series (given that he regrows that which is thinly-sliced off) ...

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Shrek Pinoccio:

[-] gray@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

If you say something you're convinced is correct with the best intentions. But it turns out to be incorrect. Will you burn in hell for breaking one of the 10 commandments? Asking for a friend.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No. Lying is making a claim you actually believe is untrue. It's actual truthfulness is irrelevant. If you believe it's true, it's not a lie.

[-] psivchaz@reddthat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'd like to believe there would be some carve out here for willful ignorance. Like if the truth is easily accessible and you choose to believe contrary to that because of some other thing, maybe you don't get grace on that.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Going strictly by the biblical wording, that wouldn't matter. As long as you definitely believe it's true, it's not a lie. Now, if you have some doubt, but don't admit it? That would qualify.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 2 weeks ago

Lying by omission and lying by over-reaction ("histrionics", but that word's a bit nerdy) are definitely ones that ought to be added to Bible 3, which I heard~ is supposed to be a prequel—isn't that fun?

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep, still working through this with one of my kids. Lying requires an intent to deceive, to mislead. You can say things that are untrue without meaning to, which is not lying

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter, by the Bible you're either saved and forgiven or burning in hell anyway.

[-] gray@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Right, Christianity is so convenient that way

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago
[-] alcea@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If taking hostages is required for solving the "universe's secrets" it can gladly keep its secrets.

At the end of it there will be a CEO extracting money from completly unrelated research. Humans are dumb.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hate to break it to you, but Pinocchio isn't real. This whole comic might be pure fiction. Bummer, I know.

[-] alcea@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Bu But But the economic value of that nose !!111

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

This only works if Pinocchio is an all knowing entity. If he doesn't know shit about the universe, than his lies aren't proof that the opposite statement is true.

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fool. Wong question.

"Do things in undiscovered extra dimensions affect our dimension by way gravity?"

[-] suff@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for pointing me to kohney.com

[-] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Read that as gravy at first

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