Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.
Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.
With the caveat that, if you don't achieve those profits, it will land you in jail.
Got me there
pedophilia (if you are rich)
You don't even need that first part. Being rich makes it 10x harder for you to be prosecuted.
For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear
Being white
Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.
Or loads a dummy profile and deletes other profiles without giving away what is happening.
I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.
Sounds awesome.
Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.
Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.
Any duress pin use should be covered under a person's right to avoid self incrimination.
If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.
Alternately, a user profile that isn't displayed anywhere, but accessible only through a specific PIN, maybe. Not sure how you'd explain the storage space either option used, however.
It should work like truecrypt used to where there's no sign some of the encrypted blob is not actually visible in the fake os.
I think the point is that if you load an empty profile (no photos, no videos, no apps, etc) but your phone storage is nearly full, it could throw up a red flag.
Nothing is needed. Erase your shit before you travel in or out of the US.
This is yesterday's news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don't understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn't bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.
Which isn't to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren't hostile and inhumane.
How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I'm allowed to delete my files, aren't I?
Be careful not to swallow your spit. They may think you're swallowing a bomb and shoot you on the spot.
Except that this person wasn't accused or even suspected of a crime.
If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.
No it wipes the data from the phone
GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested
That is a distinction without a difference. Either way the once accessible data can no longer be accessed any longer.
Very interesting! I'd like to ask a lawyer how they think the courts would view that. The data is intact, just not decryptable. 🤣
In order to be convicted of destroying evidence, there needs to be proof that there was "evidence" on the phone in the first place.
If something on the phone is already known without doubt, then what's the need for access? if there is doubt at the time of the wipe then there is no proof or destroying evidence. 🤷♂️
You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.
This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.
Or just set it to your mmddyy or something typical for weak passwords
I'm not going to disclose my specific way, but numbers don't need decimal digits to be expressed and parsed. An hypothetical example:
Oh... ye shadow! Nahamah, my Mother
Believe it or not, this is encoding the today's date, 2026-07-26.
Oh = 2 letters
Elipsis = no letters, so 0
ye = 2 letters
shadow = 6 letters
Nahamah = 7
My = 2
Mother = 6
The funny part? I just conjured this technique during the composition of this very reply. It's somehow easy for me to conjure atypical steganographic techniques, and I use steganography quite often IRL. In this way, I can literally write down my passwords and keep in my wallet, and absolutely nobody will get to figure out it's meant to be a password.
Luckily for FBI and other investigation agencies, I dont even think of visiting the USA, but good luck for any fed or cop trying to keep up with my plethora of steganographic techniques (and my neurodivergent brain) amidst plausible deniability if I ever did. Lol
Funny how the lemmy liberals never believe that the US is the authoritarian country lol
Really? I feel like I'm constantly seeing complaints about the US's growing authoritarianism.
I mean from the cadre of Anti-russia, Anti-china accounts who try and tell me I am a conspiracy theorist for thinking that the CIA is behind "all world events" despite talking about a specific event where the CIA actually overthrew the country I am from.
They didnt grow to it. Nobody just gave a shit before, because it wasnt against all skin colors.
If the phone's security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?
They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.
@SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls
and there are more:
Jfc. Next you'll be jailed for not having a phone
And that person is the officer that destroyed the evidence
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