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[-] Albercik@szmer.info 19 points 18 hours ago

Never done

Except they did it for decades in some cases

[-] whyrat@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Something it's never done? Tech is notorious for spending more than it earns. See: the Dot Com bubble.

[-] msage@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago

Every 'disruptive' technology in the past decade as well.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

It‘s how virtually every startup in Silicon Valley still operates. Bait and Switch is the business model of the 21st century.

[-] Sinax@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Turns out it's hard to make money if you don't sell infinite free copies of a product that you only have to produce once.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago

They aren’t “forced” to do anything. They are choosing to throw money down a black hole.

[-] msage@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

Not really true.

If they stop, it's over for them.

They have to keep digging hoping for something big to happen: IPO and rake in cash from retirements; big government programs with guaranteed vendor lock-in; or stumbling upon an AGI and winning the '''''''race'''''''.

If the market wakes up from the hypertrend before that, they are absolutely fucked.

We get fucked in every scenario, btw.

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Well, I’ve learned to think of these things as wealth transfers — is that fair in this context.? Question is, where’s all the money going that big tech is loosing? To power companies, or is more complex than that?

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 9 points 23 hours ago

Remember, the execs are bonusing themselves. They are all getting filthy rich right now.

(And like all scams, they don't care about efficiency.)

[-] gratux 3 points 21 hours ago

It's going in a circle, eventually ending up at nvidia and co.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago

also effectively wasting planets resources

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 21 points 22 hours ago

I thought Big Tech loved burning money.

[-] DannyMac@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

Man, I miss MoviePass... For $9.99/mo, it converted venture capital into something people could directly enjoy by watching as many movies as possible!

[-] PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago
[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 10 points 23 hours ago

Lol big tech loves speculating. It's a bubble, and if not now, when? ... Delivering real products is such a pain in the ass.

It’s fucking bandwagoning. That’s it. That’s all this is. I hope the market destroys them for it.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Wall Street spent years demanding AI investment, then panicked when AI investment showed up on the balance sheet: If Alphabet keeps printing record profits while building the infrastructure for the next decade, this may end up looking more like impatience than prudence. The market loves growth, until it has to pay for it.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

That's because the amount of AI investment looks like orders of magnitude more than anyone is willing to pay for AI products.

They were happy about spending billions, but now the bubble is into the trillions and there isn't tens of trillions in market demand to make an investment that big pay off.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

That assumes demand is fixed. Historically, the biggest technology shifts created entirely new markets that barely existed beforehand. Almost nobody predicted today’s cloud or app economy from early internet revenue. AI spending could still prove excessive, but current demand is a poor ceiling for what future demand might become.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 19 hours ago

Current buyers are looking to cut back on spending, rather than dramatically increase. And that's based on current prices which are being subsidised by burning investor money, not the prices they need to charge to make a profit.

Cloud and apps didn't need trillions in investment to still not get off the ground. There isn't really any scenario in which current AI spending doesn't turn out to be excessive.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Maybe, but »excessive investment« and »failed technology« aren’t the same thing: Railroads, fiber optics and the dot com era all burned absurd amounts of capital, yet the infrastructure outlived the investors. AI could follow the same pattern: terrible returns for today’s shareholders, enormous value for tomorrow’s economy.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, but the AI infrastructure is made out of compute hardware that's going to need replaced in 6 years. Not rails that will still be useable in 50 years.

We aren't building lasting infrastructure other than the actual buildings.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I’d argue the models and software are the real long term assets. GPUs depreciate like any other hardware, but a better training pipeline, inference stack, proprietary data, and a model with millions of paying users can survive multiple hardware generations. The chips are replaceable. The ecosystem and customer relationships are much harder to replicate.

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, there’s a lot of innovation going on to run powerful models on modest hardware and the state of the art for running local models is changing all the time. If the trend continues, models hosted in a data center will only be for niche use cases.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

That would certainly be the good ending, I won’t hold my breath for it

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago
[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

It will be interesting how this plays out. The only bright spot of the bullshit Trump economy is Wall Street's success and AI investing is what is driving that.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Don't forget Trump has made oil way more expensive. That's a huge favor to the world and the things that live on it!

[-] excursion22@piefed.ca 6 points 1 day ago

He's also decimated environmental regulation...so, definitely not a huge favour.

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Only in the USA. Which is only part of North America. The world is a big place.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

We all live on earth and climate change is global

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