Thanking an employee for joining before termination sounds insincere and odd. I understand it's to appear polite however I don't think it should be best practice.
A more appropriate opening would be "Hi X, I have some difficult news to share."
HR are professional gaslighters, that is literally their job.
Human Resources.
You, the human, a resource, for a company.
Their job is to manage and modify your behavior, as a resource, cattle with feelings.
...they are literally professional gaslighters.
It's now "people and culture."
I am writing to you today to inform you that I do not care.
Have a great day! =D
Hello sp3ctr4l,
We do not appreciate your tone as it doesn't fit in our culture of respecting and hailing to corporate.
We will be writing you up for insubordination, violating our respect in the work place policy, and poor performance.
Here is your improvement action report.
Regards,
I hope this message finds you well,
... as that would be quite something, given that your office apparently ... burst into flames, not too long ago?
You ok?
As per our previous emails, I'll be reporting that to the city fire marshall as well, as you really would think a sprinkler system of some kind would have tiggered.
I'm sure you don't still keep that pannini press in your office, so my only guess would be some kind of electrical outlet or breaker is not up to code.
Anyway, I'll look over the IAR when I get back from the vacation I am currently on.
proceeds to call company lawyers
Hey sp3ctr4l, Please sit down. I have some difficult news to share. Unfortunately the company has decided to end your employment effective today. You will get your record of employment by email and enclosed is your package. Please sign and return as soon as possible.
Security will escort you out.
Bye.
proceeds to add sp3ctr4l onto the unsuitable candidates list
[Auto-Reply]:
Hey, appreciate the message, I'm currently on vacation.
I'll respond as soon as I return to work!
has security pack your office
has IT block sp3ctr4l from laptop, email, accounts, key fobs, other accounts, etc
I will wait patiently for your return.
Message Undelivered
[unfortunately, there is no real direct way to form an email that conveys the concept of no futher reply]
[like some kind of gh0st, sp3ct3r, ph4nt4sm...]
An HR rep once told me to "have a nice day" after firing me.
Its the psychopath version of when the waiter says 'enjoy your food!' and you respond 'you too!'
I was working as a contractor for a company, and two of us were told that we'd be moved to permanent roles but it kept getting blocked higher up.
It then became obvious why, because then they announced they are cutting all contractors and I heard they were moving our roles to a region where it's cheaper to pay salaries.
Then we all get called into this large meeting with our team members and some adjacent teams as some form of farewell. The meeting host starts off with something like, we have a few people that will be leaving us soon so let's go around and share some happy memories and what you enjoyed about working for [Company Name].
Yeah I just straight up left the meeting at that point.
I've heard the whole "this position can change to permanent" story so many times, where it doesn't. It should be illegal to make promises like that and not follow through.
Our manager tried, a few times, but the process got blocked further up.
I would have started as perm but there was some odd internal policy and the person who hired me in, a friend of a friend, mentioned that HR do not like it when someone gets hired and get a salary that is more than 15% of their previous salary.
I fell into that category, but they were willing to pay a day rate that ended up well exceeding what they would have paid me as perm... probably about 30%+. But then it would have been more difficult to get rid of me.
So the plan was to get me in as contract, get a decent day rate and then move over to perm after 6 months and use that day rate to negotiate a decent salary. Then the boss of that area changed, and when he came on he said he was not going to make changes, just observe. A total lie that is obviously a lie.
The irony is how much money they lost over their practice, a good employee, and the cost (time, resources) of having to replace you.
HR gets the blame, but it may be the managers in charge running things like that.
I have had to do the termination not that long ago, it’s not that great for the other side either, thanking them for joining and not avoiding the meeting is mot insincere, it would be way more awkward if the employee would be avoiding the meeting
I had someone on my team who we had to let go for not showing up to work, and it took 3 tries to just get him to join the call. For the backstory, he basically didn't work for ~9 months into the pandemic when we were all working from home. He wasn't very productive when we'd be in the office, but when WFH, he seemed to only do work when we were on our one on ones, and it got to the point where I had to schedule a 3 hour call every day to motivate him to do work. Eventually he stopped showing up to most of those and was wasn't getting anything done, and wasn't fair to everyone else on the team picking up the slack. Sucked for everyone involved.
So they knew it was coming.
I don’t know if they knew or not
No one cares that you are politely ruining their life.
I've been fired into direct homelessness, and I made that HR cry.
Everyone should do that.
You need to feel that bad.
Otherwise, we will just keep going on with this inhuman system.
Yes, all interactions are the same, and there is no place for nuance, how could I forget this, apologies
Apology not accepted.
You need to be crying, when you strip people's healthcare from them.
Not sure if you are aware, but there are countries that exist outside the US. Were you by any chance terminated from your job as a Geography teacher? i can see why
The HR person will get fired if the facial recognition sees her not smiling like that.
Or Anne Hathaway when she’s about to sit down for dinner with Epstein and Gates.
Ew, really? Thanks for the red pill.
A quick Google shows that there's no real evidence of involvement. It seems like Epstein might've been trying to arrange for her to be present at a dinner with Gates, like as in him wanting Gates to get her there? Uncertain. I wasn't particularly rigorous though. I'm not claiming to have strong context.
Okay, that’s better… I guess. I’m not in a position to research it right now, so I appreciate that.
Sounds similar to why Bruce Willis is on the list. He was reached out to but it seems nothing came of it.
The files are word searchable and include all sorts of documents including emails (and maybe texts.) So, if two asshole said they were going to see an Ann Hathaway movie after their pedo dinner, she’s show up.
Also, if someone shows up 2K+ times, they’ll make them president.
A name in the files doesn't mean they were involved in anything.
Care to share the actual allegations other than whatever you pull out of your ass?
Last time I got laid off I got the email that I was being laid off three hours before my call with HR. Headquarters was on Eastern Time, so the layoff emails went out around 9am ET, but I was on a team that was mostly on Pacific Time so my call was after 9am PT. And I'm on Atlantic, so this was 10am and 1pm, and I was off that day. The clueless HR person offered me a moment to collect myself at the start of the call, as if I hadn't already had plenty of time for that. Just one big annoyance.
HR stories really show how incompetent HR people are.
It's almost like being completely disconnected from reality is a prerequisite for HR.
HR seems to be one of those jobs where it's great if you have education, but to land an entry level role, you don't need it necessarily. So you end up with a workforce who doesn't have critical thinking, problem solving, or advanced communication skills.
Professional bodies try to help fix it, but it seems it's not blocked off enough.
When I was a manager, I did my own damn firing. Not because I enjoyed it, but because the people that worked for me were people, not an employee number. It was genuinely hard, so I damn well thought about it before I shitcanned them.
Too many teeth in that smile
Found the brit
Her and Julia Roberts have nightmare mouths.
Edit: I regret nothing.
Anne's smile is so perfect it almost looks AI, bro
This photo cracks me up every time I see it. Perfectly uncanny psychotic expression.
I think it's the proximity to the camera that makes her face distorted. 😆 Looks like she's super close to your door's peephole or something. Bit creepy, yeah.
I've never had a job where i could be fired, it sounds incredibly stressful.
Have you not had a job, or somehow they've never been allowed to fire you? I'm not playing dumb, I may actually be dumb - I just can't imagine what job doesn't carry a risk of being fired (except maybe tenured professor)?
I've been employed for a good 25 years of my life. I've either, been too valuable to fire and have had too much knowledge of where the bodies are buried, worked for myself, or worked for my parents company. I did have one normal job once a few years back, for 90 days and then it was a mutual resignation. Ive never really had a boss I've ever feared, ive always been on their "team".
You are legitimately one of the luckiest people on the planet.
Right on! I get this energy as well. Never had anyone "manage" me. Make my own schedule and I project deep roots into everything I touch and improve cutting me loose would be extremely painful.
I did work somewhere where the COO wanted to can my ass. But they were constantly told I was way to valuable by the rest of the c-suite and cool it. Their problem was I wouldn't kiss their ass and called them out on dumb ideas.
I show up to do work, not play politics. Turns out being good at what you do pays off sometimes.
Possibly a decent country that has labour laws rather than 'fire at will' BS?
Yeah, places with labour law make sure firing people is difficult. Bosses will bitch around but at least everyone have one less stress of not having food on the table.
you bet. it is. you get kicked out and have to find something very fast to pay for housing and food. fucked up
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