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Why all the landlord hate? (lemmy.world)
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[-] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I don’t get it, I’ll bend over backward to keep my rental in good shape and working. Previous tenants didn’t seem to care and allowed their kids to draw all over walls, break shower faucets and not say anything, I dunno I feel like there are two different types of people in the world. People who want to own homes and people who dgaf and will destroy them. All my good tenants go on to own homes, all the bad ones just go fuck Jo the next rental they can get

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

All landlords are bastards.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

ALAB!

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Couldn't really rent apartments without having some sort of landlord. And not everyone wants to buy

Some are obviously better landlords than others

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 20 points 3 days ago

I think there's a difference between like a landlord and a property management company.

Property management that fixes stuff, cleans up common areas, and such adds value. They do labor that's useful.

A landlord that just gets money because they legally own the place is not adding value. That's what most people hate.

You can, of course, have horrible people assigned to manage the property.

[-] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

"Property management" is what a landlord does in a functioning housing market (I.e. one where the price of housing is holding steady, so a landlord can't make money just renting while the land value goes up on its own). It's what makes renting preferable to owning in a functional market - you pay extra for convenience and flexibility.

What you're saying is that most landlords don't do their job. Which is correct, and also why everyone hates them.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

A good landlord do add value.

They do repairs on time (which can be quite costly), takes care of most HOA stuff (and fees), pay quite a lot of taxes (depending on where you live, of course).

Personally I inherited part of my grandmother home (the other part being owned by my father). When she died, I redid most of the isolation, electrical and paints, costing me 75k, and had to do paint again (10k) after the first tenant (they ruined it, it went from white to dark yellow due to how much they smoked).
We had some water damage, which was caused by the town (they refused to pay for the damages, invoking a impossible to follow law), and another one (caused by the neighbor, which refuses to do the repairs), which is still pending (we reduced the rent due to that).
Add to that the taxes, which basically reduce our "earning" by 40% where I live, 6 years after my grandmother passing I just started to see any income from the property.

So yeah, there are bastards amongs us, but abput as much as in any group of people. That's not homeowning that make the bastard, they'd be bastard, home or not.

[-] Chakravanti@multiverse.soulism.net 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like Satyrn to me. Six one way, Hexagon to the peak.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Most people would much rather buy, but they can't because landlords own all the property, driving up the rates. Consolidation of property is getting to be a real problem and even the most demented of free marketeers can recognize that real estate is a scare market that is easily cornered by oligopolies.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 9 points 3 days ago

Housing is a human right and should be free.

Ban landlording and put a high fucking tax on vacant homes. I'm talking 100,000 a year. Watch the price crash. People with mortgages will complain because they now have negative equity. I don't care. Housing is a human right.

Can't afford the fine? Don't worry, your debt is forgiven if you give the government your house. Boom. Everyone with a little money gets to own a house, everyone else gets a government house.

Put a 5 year timer on the law so people know it's coming.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

In your plan, no new housing on spec to sell would be built. Great solution.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 7 points 3 days ago

That's because housing is only ever built so it can be sold to landlords to charge rent.

And the problem with that theory is, it's wrong.

First, plenty of luxury housing is built to sell to rich people. The rich people move into the luxury housing, and sell their posh housing to well-to-do workers. They move into the posh housing and sell their nice housing to working professionals. Who sell their run-down housing to poor workers. Who will, under this system, either sell their crap housing to the destitute or just give it to the government to avoid the new taxes.

And second, housing is the government's job to provide. Private capital should not be responsible for building the housing. Housing is a human right, so the govenment should be building it. We shouldn't trust markets to distribute resources people need to live. Markets are okay for, like, video games and shit... but we shouldn't trust markets with human rights.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Would be nice but I doubt it's going to happen

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[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I didn't stutter, fuck land lords.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 3 days ago

What about people who don't want to buy homes?

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We figured out alternative solutions to private transportation ownership in many parts of the world.

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[-] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 days ago

Regulate landlords!

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[-] mathemachristian 2 points 3 days ago

You don't need a landlord in order to rent 🤦🤦🤦

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

How would you rent without a landlord?

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 2 days ago

Renters coop for instance. The state or city is could be another example

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

What is renters coop? Also, renting from the government sounds worse than renting from a landlord unless you're getting a steep discount.

[-] mathemachristian 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A renters cooperative. The renters own all the buildings, the rent strictly goes towards the maintenance and admin costs. Also called "Baugenossenschaft" in Germany if you want to know about real-life examples. Their remnants of pre-ww1 marxist policies. The deposit becomes kind of a buy-in that appreciates in value and when leaving the coop the renter gets their buy-in back. It is usually considered a pretty good investment.

As for renting from the government, this is typically pretty cheap. The soviets for example paid around 5-7% of their income for rent.

from https://doi.org/10.2307/3001359 p178

Relative Weight of Rent in Budgets of Workers and Employees in the USSR.

Year Percent of income spent on rent
1922 2.8
1923 4.0
1924 5.8
1925 6.1
1928 10.4
1930 7.4
1932 5.7
1935 5.0
1937 4.3
1956 4.0

What's more having the rent set by the government allows for rent decreases for certain groups of people based on their legal status e. g. (same paper p176-177)

Workers and employees and others of similar status, whose income is 145 rubles per month, pay 35 kopeks for every square meter of dwelling space. Those earning less than 145 rubles per month pay a reduced rate depending on the renter's income and family status.

...

On the other hand, the rent of workers and employees whose income is over 145 rubles per month is also increased according to a graduated scale. This rate of increase is 3.3 kopeks per sq. m. of dwelling space for each additional 10 rubles in excess of 145 rubles.

...

Handicraftsmen and members of liberal professionspay from 66 kopeks to 1 ruble 98 kopeks per sq. m. of dwelling space. Officials of religious denominations and persons hired by religious institutions pay the higher rate of 1 ruble 98 kopeks. Military personnel pay from 15 to 80 kopeks per sq. m., and these rates are not subject to change on the basis of location, facilities or family status of the individual. Special categories of pensioners pay 50% of the established rent for workers and employees and are not required to pay higher rates for additional space. "Heroes of Labor," not employed and not having outside sources of income, pay rent on only 50% of their income.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I don't understand the difference between a renters coop and a regular apartment.

Fair enough. For five percent, I'll haggle with all the bureaucracy necessary.

[-] mathemachristian 1 points 1 day ago

A regular apartment the owner gets the rent and then decides how to spend it (maybe on the apartment, maybe the mortgage of the building, maybe on a new sports car for themselves). In a renters coop the tenants pay "themselves" and they decide how to use the money. How much should they allocate for gardening, repairpeople, new buildings etc. It gets cheaper and cheaper at scale too. There usually is some democratic decision making-process involved where the tenants decide.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Who owns the units?

[-] mathemachristian 1 points 1 day ago

The tenants through whatever governing body that they chose. In lieu of a deposit there is a buy-in that gets you a membership in that body. This buy-in gets returned with an appreciated value if the tenant choses to move somewhere outside the renters coop.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Who would you be renting from?

A landlord is the owner of property such as a farm, house, apartment, condominium, land, or real estate that is rented or leased to an individual or business, known as a tenant (also called a lessee or renter). The term landlord applies when a juristic person occupies this position.

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 2 days ago

Renters coop for instance. The state or city is could be another example

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Coop, state or city would be the landlord (the entity owning the place) in those cases

[-] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Alternative idea if you want a more capitalist solution than government owned and distributed housing would be mandated rent to own. End of year, current owner tallies up all expenses, anything over is used to purchase equity at market rate. You either sell the equity when you move, or eventually own the place. No landlords just a delayed title transfer.

Of course this wouldn't solve the fact that housing is a human right that all should have access to but any capitalist solution requires a "loser" to suffer some form of horror

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My landlord once didn't call the repairman when the air conditioning went out on a Saturday when it was 110°F outside (and remained that way all weekend). She made the excuse that her AC repairman was at a tournament and didn't have anyone come over til the following Monday. You know. When rates were cheaper.

Nevermind the fact that she made >$20,000 in rent from us. She couldn't spend the extra $150 for the weekend rate.

That was the moment I was radicalized against landlords.

[-] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

It’s not that simple, I run into the same issue where I live. Most specialists don’t work sundays and most of Saturday, they have enough business to have a life

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My ceiling leaked water anytime it rained. I woke up next to a puddle more than once. The landlord had his maitnence guy come, he went up into the attic crawl space, and placed a bucket where the leak was. A bucket. My kitchen sink also had a small leak, and I just placed a bucket under it, I had to empty it about once a week. Did that for over a year.

[-] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 5 points 2 days ago

My landlord pulled the same shit. And I told him how much rent are you taking off until you fix this. And believe it or not for 8 months until he fixed the roof I paid half. But I made sure to pay the other half back to me like I was still paying rent.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Probably because they're legally required to fix heat immediately but not AC. I agree with your PoV, but that's probably their thinking.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wow he even cut him a deal on the blood clean up rate? Do you know how much money he could make if he charged market rates for hiring a hit man and bio cleanup crew?

[-] Racoonwithbenefits@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Glad im finally out of renting

[-] liquorice@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

happy for you. shits expensive af

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[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Here is my petition to remove the word lord from the title and henceforth refer to the as land managers. To be a lord one must be noble and to be noble one must oblige and for certain they do not oblige aka noblesse oblige

[-] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Nobles are always cunts, so landlord fits.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago

Landleech

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 days ago

I move to make an amendment. The amendment being to change the wording of land managers to housing parasites.

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