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[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 108 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Show me in the Bible or Quran where it says I can't fuck roadkill and I'll stop fucking roadkill. And don't cheat with some "defile corpses" type of language. It's just a cream filling.

As truckers say, it's nature's pocket pussy. Brb I have to make America healthy again by eliminating vaccines and also removing any protections that prevent the spread of parasitic brain worms

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'm no parasitic brain worm expert but this does seem like something that a brain worm riddled person would say.

Can anyone who's fucked roadkill but is definitely not infested with parasitic brain worms care to give us their opinion?

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 89 points 3 weeks ago

I've met Christians that think like this. I think the "logic" goes something like this:

  • God says not to do a lot of things because they're wrong
  • I try not to do those things, and some of them are totally gross
  • Atheists don't believe in God, so there's nothing stopping them from doing those things, including the gross ones

The just totally miss that atheists generally don't want to do those things any more than they do. It reminds me of what Penn Jillette said in an interview:

The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine. I don't want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don't want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you.

[-] Aneb@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

The sad part is the hypocrisy. They throw the book at you to explain why they are "non violent" and "love" their neighbors. Then when you point out the millennia of rape and killings the Church committed against their neighbors, they say it was in service of God. Which fucking thing is it: god makes you a good person, or god ordains killing and raping (reserved for Christians only)?

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Have you ever read the bible? You can find something to justify anything, as long as you're willing to ignore other parts.

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[-] BillyClark@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago

I am not an expert on every verse of the Bible, but I don't recall there being a passage that forbids a believer from fucking roadkill. And even if there is, I'm confident that he doesn't know about it, either. So, I suspect that the actual reason that guy doesn't fuck roadkill is nearly the same reason that I don't fuck roadkill.

I don't fuck roadkill because I don't want to. He, on the other hand, also doesn't want to, but he goes the extra step to say that because he doesn't want to, and it's sexual, then actually it's God that doesn't want him to do it.

In my experience, Christians do this frequently. They have some feeling, and then assume that God must want them to feel that way. I can only say that the thought itself must be blasphemous. And when you look at it in that light, it's actually pretty blasphemous if that Christian doesn't stop to fuck all of the roadkill he comes across. Who is he to guess the mind of God? Even if he doesn't want to, he's got to go pump his meat into that dead deer.

[-] Klear@piefed.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

So, I suspect that the actual reason that guy doesn’t fuck roadkill is nearly the same reason that I don’t fuck roadkill.

Bold of you to assume that guy doesn't fuck roadkill.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am not an expert on every verse of the Bible

You don't need to be an expert to a) have read it or b) just look it up before writing a lengthy, uninformed comment:

Exodus ["Laws for a Just Community"]:

[22:19] Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.

Leviticus:

[18:23] And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion. [...] [20:15–16] If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Deuteronomy [Moses speaking]:

[27:21] “‘Cursed be anyone who lies with any kind of animal.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

If you can read and claim that the above doesn't prohibit it, then you're arguing in bad faith. You can make plenty of solid arguments about e.g. consistency with laws of the Torah (e.g. mixed fabrics, shellfish); this one ain't it, chief.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

But it's it still lying with an animal if it's dead?

More importantly, are we saying everything in Leviticus is immortal/unethical, including those you cite at the end? Because most Christians don't.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

By your logic that means the Bible thinks it's okay to have sex with a dead human.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago

Morality doesn't exist.

Morality is just Empathy re-branded by religion in order to be codified and used to cudgel uneducated medieval serfs.

What they preach about in not killing, not raping, not fucking deer, etc.. etc... literally comes from simply giving the barest minimum of shits about the people around you.

Their problem however, is that Empathy not only predates their religion by hundreds of thousands of years (if not millions), but that Empathy is not limited to humans, which would mean that they're no longer the creator's "special little boy".

So they rename it, put it into neat and easy little Mnemonic devices (lets call them sins) and then run around telling the uneducated peasants "don't do this, don't do that" even though most people weren't doing those things anyway because most people have empathy and simply aren't assholes.

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[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago

Since the deer is dead, it can't consent, which is rape. That is what an atheist would say.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago

Good Christian: Yeah but why didn't your atheist god tell you not to fuck it?

(Starts dry humping the dead creature)

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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The actual answer is that it violates the dignity of animals and humans. It's so disgusting and grotesque that nobody even wants to read about this stupid hypothetical. Not even as a shitpost, nor as a snarky rejoinder to a shitpost. It's literal gore. What the fuck is wrong with you OP.

That and health issues.

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[-] WappleFF27@feddit.online 19 points 3 weeks ago

Could be projection, but it's more likely that christians think atheists are nothing but nihilistic hedonists that fuck and kill everything and anything. looks at bible oh yeah, that's also projection.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago

Good point, it might not be immoral

It is, however, fucking disgusting and that's one good reason not to do it.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

That's the thing that bothers me about religious people, the only thing stopping the lot of them from committing heinous crimes is the fear of eternal damnation. It's like they have no morals at all.

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[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

If the only reason you aren't a necrophiliac rapist is because your god says not to, you are not a good person, you are a necrophiliac rapist on a leash.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not talking morals with someone who has a moral codex from 2000 years ago.

[-] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'll never get over the slavery angle. Like, right after delivering your people from generations of slavery would have been the perfect opportunity to go "We're not doing that shit again."

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[-] uriel238 16 points 3 weeks ago

Recently, I was introduced to Wikipedia's List of individual cats.

Among them is Jack, who was lost in luggage by American Airlines. He was found 61 days later, still alive, dehydrated and malnourished and beyond recovery, Jack was put down.

That's one incident. In nature, shit like that happens every single day.

I don't think there's a god, especially the Greek notion of an omnipotent, omniscient creator.

But if one did exist, to us, it is a monster...

...and to It, we are irrelevant.

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Has my guy never seen the sheep intestine condoms? You can fuck a dead animal while fucking someone else at the same time!

[-] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 weeks ago

I just don't want maggots on my dick. Simple.

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[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's not morally wrong, it's just disgusting. And it is morally wrong to fuck a human corpse because the corpse belongs to the family of the deceased, or the state if no family. It's not morally OK to fuck other people's property, or to distress them (in the case of the family) by doing so. Just like how it's OK to fuck your own couch, but not your parent's one.

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[-] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago

I grew up in a very cultist region, and I remember having similar arguments at 8-13 years old already. Well, not about corpse fucking but murder and such. When I made the same argument, "I'm currently murdering as many people as I want which is 0", the holier than thou counter-argument always was "well that's only because you grew up in a Christian culture even if you're now deciding to not believe!" Which often wasn't just that, it often went further into pretty racist assumptions that if I was like a "wild human living somewhere in Africa", I'd be murdering and eating human meat.. That tells quite a lot about the whole love-thy-neighbor act I think.

And this wasn't somewhere in the 70's, it was in the 2000-2010.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago

I can't remember the Bible verse about not sticking your dick in roadkill.

[-] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It was right after the part about digital IP media rights policy. Just before the 2029 FIA rule changes.

I think it's in one of the books they took out because none of it made sense to them.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago

necrophelia, beastility are often the trifecta of phelias with pedophelia. often found done by evangelicals/conservatives, .. they are probably also attributing "Aethism" to that as well, but they arnt saying ti out loud.

[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Conservatives on another level, subhuman.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's neither morally "right" or "wrong". It's just creepy. Creepy like christianity and it's creepy followers. I'm never shocked by the creepy thoughts of xians, obsession with sex and other people having sex, and now sex with roadkill. Was this a post by RFK Jr??? Did you eat it's penis bob?

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is it morally wrong? I think it's extremely gross, but it isn't harming anyone. I think if we are going to say it's morally wrong, it'd have to be because of the rights an animal has in death to its corpse not being desecrated - but we have no problem with mutilating and eating animal corpses, so this only differs in terms of its disgustingness and depravity.

I actually don't think the bible has a compelling stance on this subject. The only relevant things the bible had to say that I can think of are that sex is restricted to marriage and the stuff about not spilling seed. So... the reason a Christian couldn't have sex with roadkill is because they aren't married to it or because it can't get pregnant? That's a pretty weak argument. And if there isn't anything else in the Bible about it... then we're left with soemthing like "necrophilic beastiality is gross" - which, while true, is not a strong moral claim and not something Jesus is recorded as having said, believe it or not.

Too frequently people conflate feelings of disgust with proof of unethical/immoral behavior - in this case it happens to work because the act in question is extremely repugnant, but it's also similar to how religious people justify all sorts of bad actions and bigotry even when their own religious dogma is silent or unclear on the morality of specific things.

It is a normal human impulse to want horrible and disgusting things like this to be immoral, but we do need actual, consistent reasons that make sense if we are going to call something immoral.

Secular ethics are better able to handle this because they can easily include things like animal rights extending beyond death - or we can be comfortable saying this is a disgusting and depraved act, worthy of punishment even, that doesn't have moral weight due to the lack of harm or rights violations (if we say animals don't have rights to dignity in death).

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

A compelling moral argument could be made in the case where they have human sexual partners; I would not consider having sex with road kill to be especially safe from a communicable disease standpoint, and engaging in this behavior endangers the partner’s life.

I’m willing to bet the partner doesn’t know, too.

That said, pretty sure the whole spilling seed things comes from a pretty blatant misunderstanding of genesis 38:8–10. It’s part of the story of Judah and Tamar.

Tamar was given to Er- Judah’s first son, who got offed by god for some undisclosed wickedness.so Judah tells his other son- Onan- to fulfill his obligation as Er’a brother and get Tamar preggers.

The idea here is that Onan would give Er and heir, who would inherit most of Judah’s shit. Onan, being not entirely stupid understood that if Tamar never gave birth to a son, then the greedy fuck would instead inherit Judah’s shit.

So Onan gamed the system with his pull out game, and god was like, “you little shit!” And smoked the greedy fucker. It had nothing to do with Onan pulling out and everything to do with him being greedy. If he tried the rhythm method, he’d have still gotten smoked...

And all this because the best social safety nets for single mother’s they could come up with was “hey. If the brother gets her pregnant, a son could be an heir and then she could take care of everything until the son is old enough!” Because women were property and couldn’t inherit anything.

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Do they not know your own feelings can be a factor? I know the dead deer won't feel anything, that's not what the issue is lol

[-] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Getting any part of one’s body inside a dead carcass has nothing to do with morals…. It’s fucking DISGUSTING! Remember that piece of meat is currently being eaten and digested by billions of bacterias. All eating and defecating everywhere inside and out.. flies have burrowed eggs in it, worms are crawling everywhere, and all this is releasing toxic gases from all the rotting and digesting…. Also all the sphincters have released so the bowels are leaking out ..! Nope…nope….nope….!!!

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Unlike you, I do not get a boner from road kill. Maybe you should see a therapist about your necrophiliac beastiality.

[-] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is humanity this far gone?

I don't think much can be accomplished by discussing the moral and ethical nuance of roadkill fucking.

For some reason we can't get morally squared away on fucking kids. No need to get distracted with hypothetical "I-40 Bambi" scenarios.

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[-] pimpampoom@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Excuse me what

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I saw another similar post to this earlier and my first thoughts were:

  1. Similar to the shooting the baby that's immortal when wearing the cross necklace scenario, what the actual fuck is wrong with you for even coming up with these types of scenarios in the first place!
  2. I don't need any God, Goddess, or deity to tell me not to fuck animals, dead or alive, because we as humans kinda collectively decided a very long time ago that it's wrong in so many ways to have sex with anything that isn't human. And that's a worldwide thing that humans decided on, regardless of what religion was practiced.
  3. If you need a God/Goddess/Deity to tell you not to do something the rest of the world has already deemed a heinous crime against nature, you are probably only following that holy instructions out of fear of not reaching whatever your religions heaven equivalent is. And I am a firm believer that if there is a heaven, those who do/don't do things only with the thought of getting into that place in the afterlife certainly ain't getting in, I'd hope. I wouldn't wanna somehow end up in Heaven only to find nobody actually did good for the sake of good and instead selfishly only thought about themselves when doing good deeds.
[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

"Who hasn't fucked a deer corpse or two?"

  • This guy apparently
[-] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Its not, you do you, friend. I don't think your god cares either. Follow your bliss.

Just, um, let me get far enough I don't need to see/hear it, and I will never eat venison from you again.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Putting aside the "why the hell would you want to do that?" aspect, let's assume that you're the guy in the picture and you do. It would be morally wrong even if the deer were alive because a non-human animal cannot give consent. It's wrong after it's dead because it's disrespectful to the deer, which was once a living being. Don't need religion to understand that.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s wrong after it’s dead because it’s disrespectful to the deer, which was once a living being.

But people eat the deer with zero moral qualms. Are you really going to tell me that yanking something's skin off, cracking its bones, gouging out its internal organs, and processing its meat into sausages for roasting is a sign of respect?

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[-] LunaA 7 points 3 weeks ago

Listen... Necrophilic beastiality might just be the best death metal song name ive heard

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know that I would say that it is wrong, morally. It is fucking disgusting though, like from a sanitary perspective, it is indicative of an aberrant psychology and poor judgement, likely detrimental to your health, it would have massive social consequences if people knew about it, and there are far more safe, healthy, and socially acceptable ways to achieve the same ends. So you objectively should not be doing that. But I don't think that it is any more morally wrong to fuck a rotting carcass than than to eat it. I would still highly discourage both practices though.

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[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's THE BEST ?

Fucking hell...

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tom Green enters the chat...

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