Or he's getting none because he's dead
He's not dead.
Comatose, non-responsive, vegetable? Probably.
But the hospotal isn't going to keep a rotting corpse for a month.
Disagree. They made a corpse deliver a baby against the family’s wishes. The people in charge are pure evil
That's not physically possable.
I think you have a different idea what corpse is.
Disagree. Disgusting fascist take but ok Steve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriana_Smith_pregnancy_case
Good, bad, fascist, whatever, doesn't matter, to a disagreement on nomenclature. A biologically functioning body with a working ATP cycle, isn't a corpse. Ethics and morality are irrelevant.
brain dead is considered dead.
no matter if cells still have atp.
it's a corpse.
there's no biological definition for human death. besides a vague "is it curable"
death used to be cardiac death, but we figured out how to save people who had cardiac death, so we move the goalpost to brain death.
If brain dead is dead bacteria are dead.
A brain dead body isn't a person, but that doesn't make it a corpse. All the biological functions continue. The ATP cycle continues. The body takes in nutrients and uses them to maintain their normal biological functions. Corpses don't do that.
It's literally not a corpse, it's a brain-dead person / body.
You started this debate with Steve by using sensationalizing language, and I'm here to provide definitions and lay this discussion to rest:
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/brain-dead?q=Braindead
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/corpse?q=Corpse
We can all agree that what they've done is horrible, there's no need to distort language to make a point.
A corpse can not carry a pregnancy, a brain-dead body apparently can if assisted.
I'll see myself out.
That's simply not correct. A corpse would have more rights to autonomy. You can't force a corpse to donate life saving organs, but you can make a woman.
How does this have upvotes? Calling someone fascist for thinking a living body isn’t a corpse? Man this place is such a shit hole sometimes.
Brain death is death. He’s dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death
If brain death is dead, single cell organisms are dead.
We’re not single called organisms
Of course not. But the definition of death you gave, doesn't distinguish between forms of life.
They will if they're getting leaned on politically, but you are right in that he's not sitting in a bed, they'll just shove him into the morge if they have one.
Every hospital has a morgue. They deal with too many dead people daily, they aren't going to be moving them out every time someone dies.
Besides, they won't leave bodies sitting in beds they could use for living, paying, patients.
Yeah and the sitting president wouldn't possibly fuck a child...
Those realy are the same thing. You're right 🙄
Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to make your perception of reality make sense to you...
Yeah, isn't there some law about social security and brain death...
Hypocrisy is a core component of the capitalist machine.
Meanwhile 99% of America would be fired, lose their benefits and be unplugged because they are dead anyway
Except that one woman who was forced to carry her child to term before they pulled the plug and then charged the family.
Clearly their problem isn't with good wages or quality healthcare, it's the "universal" part they have a problem with. And I don't think it's necessarily because they want some people to go without (although that could be the case for at least some of them), it's just that they realize that for everyone to have enough, they have to have less, and that's unacceptable to them.
They believe everything is zero-sum, so they have to be getting less of others are getting more.
The reality is that they don't actually have to have less of these things for everyone to have more. It just has to be done more efficiently, something the current system is terrible at by design so there can be 5 unnecessary middlemen taking their cut.
I think for a lot of those kinds of people it's pathological. For example, I remember reading in Careless People (a memoir by a former Facebook/Meta employee) about some of the things the author witnessed about Mark Zuckerberg made it seem like he only wanted to do things because no one else could, not because he personally derived any enjoyment out of it. I've seen this personally with philanthropists too. They don't actually like the disadvantaged kids they're helping (I'm talking literal racists), but they like the idea that they're the only ones that these kids can turn to. Basically I'm saying I don't think they believe life is zero-sum, but they have a pathological need to create zero-sum circumstances where they are the "winners" and the rest of us losers.
They want to have healthcare tied to your job. It gives the owning class control. In other nations we can change jobs for whatever reason and still get healthcare. If they treat us like shit we can quit and not have to worry about medical bills. People label it as corporate feudalism for a reason.
The American people should sue if we’re paying for his benefits. They can keep a corpse alive but deny us for every medical procedure
Considering no one knows what hospital he's in. There is absolutely no way that all the RNs, CNAs, APPs, and MD involved that NOTHING would have leaked. HIPAA doesn't do anything about an unknown anonymous tip.
With all that said. He is absolutely being kept at the house of someone involved in the cover up. Either alive or dead. Most likely dead. Watch for news on August 3rd that he suddenly died.
I’m sick of this tyranny
Socialism for me, not for thee. Politicians who vote against social services are more than happy to receive them themselves. You see the same with military members. They are provided so many services from the state they are more than happy to receive but will vote every single time to decrease social services for others.
Idea's true but can't help but push back on this "middle class" as an existing group. There is no such thing just the bourgeois and the proletariat.
If you're a politician and you don't report to public for almost a month, that's like taking a sick leave and not telling anyone. Imagine how that would look like. But since these fuckers are part of the "elite", they can do whatever the fuck they want.
And against privacy.
Also pretty sure he did more than just voting.
I hope he’s suffering.
In my experience in my own country as well as living in other countries (none of which the US, but I believe it equally applies), leftwing policies (such as universal schooling and worker rights) built the middle class and the Neoliberals (which are generally the two major parties in a country) have been destroying it since Reagan's days.
For me this was especially obvious in the UK were almost every single pro-people thing (National Health Service, Social Security, Public Housing) dated back to the years of Labour Party government immediatelly after WWII and every single one of then had been under attack in some way since Thatcher's day, including during governments of New Labour (the Labour party after the Neoliberal faction took it over, most obviously with Tony Blair whom Thatcher called "my greatest achievement").
I think the UK is especially applicable here because it's the country in Europe that, at least for the last 2 or 3 decades most apes the US (in the bad things, rather than good things).
All this to say that I don't expect ANY American politician who has managed to hold to power for so long as Mitch Mcconnell to be anything else than a middle class destroying Neoliberal, no matter what political party they come from.
Is why conservatives love Ayn Rand. Rail against it then die taking advantage of it.
working class
Fixed that for you.
He's just pining for the white hoods.
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