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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The skyrocketing cost of insurance premiums in Florida is leading residents to drop their insurance, consider selling their home, and even move out of the state, according to recent reports.

For years now, the sunny, vibrant state has been a magnetic destination for many Americans—a phenomenon which has been driving up demand for housing, especially during the pandemic, as well as home prices.

But while Florida was the number one state in the country that people moved to in 2022, it was also the one with the highest number of residents wanting to relocate, according to a SelfStorage.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 128 points 1 year ago

It's a good thing their Republican Leaders are working hard to help them with this issue.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Obviously woke insurance companies are to blame!

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

The weather doesn't listen to legislators.

[-] greenfish@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Won't stop them from trying! The general assembly in NC literally outlawed taking ocean rise into account for determining insurance rates 🤣

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

Can we build a wall to prevent them crossing the border to America?

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

Maybe we can cut the whole peninsula off and refer to it as the Great Castration.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago

Sell their homes to who? Is this like a NFT, always a bigger fool, kind of thing?

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 63 points 1 year ago

Fucking Aquaman?

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago

To landlords, who will charge arbitrarily high rent, secure in the knowledge that they aren't in a free market due to inelasticity of demand (people can't do without shelter) and supply (there are finite places to live). That will let them pay the insurance premiums homeowners can't afford.

[-] tissek@ttrpg.network 25 points 1 year ago

Premiums they will then offload onto renters keeping their margins.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Landlords are not immune from the market. It’s not truly inelastic in that people have a choice of where to live. Climate change will eventually suppress demand and thus prices for many parts of Florida.

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Republicans who want to jerk off to DeSantis and let some racial slurs fly without social opprobrium.

That's who has been moving there since 2020 or so.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

They were laughing at Californians when it was happening to us (very very recently) thinking that it was the result of "liberal policymaking".

Well, how does it feel, Florida? Are you ready to put aside our differences and go after our real common enemy, the for-profit insurance industry and climate deniers? Because I promise you, this is only going to get worse unless we force them to change things.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I'm sure DeSantis can fix this by just "fighting woke" more, right? /s

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[-] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Insurers aren’t really to blame here. Florida is a fundamentally high-risk place to build and live now, and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future due to climate change. Even a non-profit insurer would need to price Florida insurance at a premium, lest its funds be exhausted when the inevitable category-6 hurricane hits the state.

Arguably the ones most to blame (after the fossil fuel industry, for putting us in this position in the first place of course) is corrupt politicians and developers who allow such shoddy construction in the state in the first place.

[-] rchive@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

We don't just allow construction in risky places, we subsidize it. If you're an owner or developer and you wanna put your own money at risk by building in risky places, you should be allowed to do that. Just don't expect me to pay for it through taxes and FEMA flood insurance.

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[-] willis936@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm on team insurance in these cases. The US is filthy rich and we have tons of highly habitable land. Why are we wasting resources subsidizing some people choosing to live in comfortable, risky locations?

For those stuck in poverty: that does suck but I consider that an independent issue.

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[-] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

It's interesting to me that insurance companies are becoming the chief drivers of the preparation for climate change: "Wanna build a house in the woods? On a sandbar? GTFO. Use your own money."

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Whatever it takes to finally get people to realize that living in a disaster zone is a terrible idea.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

How many more years before all of Earth is a disaster zone?

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago

The current crisis isn't so much about climate change as it is an insurance market so rampant with fraudulent roof damage claims that the market can't bear it. FL legislature tried to correct this but before the law took effect a flood of claims were filed.

Climate change will only make this worse, ofc.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 year ago
[-] neuropean@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

I mean rebuilding houses in regions every 5-20 years was never gonna come out on top.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not being able to sell them (except for 10 cents on the dollar of what they paid) when they cannot be insured will be the next shock.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

It won't be long, and in Florida the cost for the mortgage will be neglectable in comparison to the costs of insurance.

The big downside will be that Floridians will move out of Florida and spread elsewhere. Maybe it is time for Georgia and Alabama to invest in a massive fence?

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Negligible.

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Insurance typically works off historical data to evaluate risk from my understanding, and having something as disastrous as the Miami beach condo collapse bodes a bad sign for insurance companies, especially given the terrible and absolutely incompetent rescue effort during the aftermath.

By the way, I'm shocked at how quickly the Miami condo collapse left the news cycle.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Iirc Florida passed some kind of law requiring coverage no matter where a structure is. And the only way the companies could make it work was massive premium increases because the places they're being forced to cover literally have to be rebuilt every year. This was after the federal government said it wouldn't offer disaster insurance on those zones anymore.

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago

To be fair to Florida, that condo was built pre-Andrew and they revised their entire building code after Andrew. There aren't too many large building built pre-Andrew anymore because they were all built as cheap as possible to laundrr drug money.

That being said, there are a million reasons why i would never move to Florida, and the only building codes that can prevent your house getting inundated by flood surge is by putting it on stilts, so no shocker that the premiums are skyrocketing. Same with fire insurance in California right now.

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[-] Hypx@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago

People move to Florida for the same reason why people use to move to California. So you wonder when housing prices will absolutely soar. Also, lack of natural disaster preparedness is something that can't be ignored in Florida. Deregulation won't solve that problem.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

lol @ all the people who fled the northeast because “Florida is cheap…”

Even the second place finisher of the Carolinas has gotten too expensive.

Everywhere is expensive now. Sad reality.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Greedflation is real

My rent went up 24% this month. Now I'm paying half of my income to one corporation

More than my parents mortgage on their house

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

So much for DeathSantis utopia. Go back to Florida and don’t bring your Nazi politics to my state.

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 38 points 1 year ago

That's the free market meeting climate change. It will get worse.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

You voted for it.. You get what you get, and you don't get upset.

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[-] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Would be sick if we could pull a Looney Tunes and saw the fucking thing off from the rest of us. Let it float away and sink into the Atlantic.

[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

You don't need to saw it off, climate change should take care of it.

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s Disney’s fault.

edit: honestly, do I really need to put a “/s” at the end of that?

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