Ppl in Asia loughing/crying in 45-50°C
T'was funny to read that the EU's strict clean air policy also contributed to the current state since there's less particles in the air blocking or reflecting sunlight away from the ground. I'm sure there's other factors to it but man nature is complex.
Tbf particulates only provide short-term relief. Long term, though, they increase the thermal capacity of the atmosphere.
Yeah we're doomed.
Yep, and Americans answering with "we're ok because we have AC" is a Don't Look Up moment
I sure hope their electricity grid can handle it when everyone turns on the AC and data centers also start pulling extra because it's so hot.
Even in the U.S., we use a lot more energy heating homes than cooling homes. Around 43% of our total in-home energy usage is on heating, and about 8% is on cooling.
Heat waves don't cause nearly as big of a strain on our grid as winter storms, because AC doesn't consume as much energy as even our efficient heat pumps in the winter.
That's because a heat pump that can lower the temperature by 10°-15°C is really all you need in the hottest part of the summer, whereas in the winter raising the temperature 25°C isn't uncommon.
At least in my country (Netherlands) the neoliberals have decided every single fucking thing needs to turn a consistent profit and the company who handles the grid is only allowed to upgrade when there is "utility and necessity" which in essence means any time they want to upgrade in anticipation of future demand everyone involved drags their feet.
The result of that policy is that now there is a ridiculous waiting list for commercial grid connections and there are plans to also restrict new high capacity residential connections. For a country that has been run by businessmen for the past 20 years we sure seem to have an awful lack of long-term vision.
Don't even get me started on the attitude that people here have towards A/C. We don't live in a country that's only hot for 1 week a year anymore but lots of ppl just won't accept that. I guess it's climate coping/denial combined with wanting to feel superior to Americans.
We will be cooked (literally)
EDIT: I just remembered that yesterday they unexpectedly had to cut power to 10000 homes for 14 minutes and it wasn't even a hot day.
Business men are myopic and not strategic for 30 years into the future? I am so shocked! 🙀 😲
They optimized their profit, just not yours you gotta understand. I.e the money is not gone it's just somewhere else.
It's crazy to me because surely you would be extracting more wealth from working people (and raising the blessed holy statistic known as GDP) with a grid that actually works and can take on new customers. I know they're evil but I guess they're also just stupid.
It's definitely not ok, but when treating the root cause will take decades if not centuries (which we absolutely should still do), perhaps it makes sense to look into treating the symptoms as well
To my knowledge a lot of ACs can't even operate at those temperatures, or only in a degraded fashion. The optimal maximum outside temperature of mine apparently is 35°C. After that the radiator can't get rid of the heat fast enough to have the inside unit work at full capacity.
There are genius ways to build homes that get cooled down even without electricity. See the "earthship" design for example, routing fresh air through pipes in the ground where it cools down, going through the home as the hot air gets sucked out by a "thermal chimmey" (literally creates airflow by using the sun). If we combined that with good insulation to avoid the sun heating up walls and windows we'd have liveable temperatures inside even at 50°C outside. But western countries not even remotely progressive enough for such a radical but necessary structural shift, so even right now we keep building houses designed to trap heat.
where are these americans saying "we're ok because we have AC"?
It's been the defining sentiment to the story when discussed in the US. The GOP has taken to the rhetoric of comparing heat deaths in Europe to gun deaths in US, as in Europe is being far more irresponsible not installing AC than US is not controlling guns (their words).
Mostly MAGA looking to literally die on that hill, (or expect thier grandchildren to)
A SMALL price to Pay to have REALLY Expensive Oil!
-World Leaders!
Chat, are we cooked?
Well more like Sous vide
Edit: I hate when I think I’m being clever only to keep reading and someone else was just as clever but quicker.
This is good news, it shows the laws of nature do apply to humans and scientists like James Hansen etal were right and Physics as we know it applies
but we've chosen to ignore it and it'll get worse and perhaps this answers Fermi's Paradox?
Humanity is the problem (for most humans and for most species) , climate change is the solution, we're literally killing species off so fast it's labeled the sixth mass extinction.
It won't take alien invasions, it won't take world wars using nukes. It will simply be humans living day to day, consuming and altering everything they cross paths with.
If not for the gulf stream (a constant sea water movement) Europe would be much colder and Northern America much warmer. I wonder if climate warming could potentially stop this gulf stream
The AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) is now creaking under the weight of all that Pacific heat in the ocean. If that goes - which is looking increasingly likely within the next 25-50 years - then sayonara Gulf Stream and Europe can look forward to what's likely to be extremely sub-zero winter temperatures and soaring summer temperatures.
I'm in the UK and I've bought an extra pair of mitts and a hand fan, so I'll be laughing
Just to be clear a collapsing AMOC is projected to slow the gulf stream but not stop it.
It's still very very bad though.
Europe won't just be colder, the weather will be more extreme in all directions. Hotter summers and colder winters, with stronger storms due to more extreme temperature variances. It will be a fun time all year round for everyone.
Time to figure out how to put the inside of a building six months away from its outside...

"If?"
the ~~planet is~~ humans are really fucked


For want of a more succinct meme - I swear there was one that just said "Silly humans..." | "I'll be fine."
Let me put it this way:
My grandparents built a brick house in the early 1950's in northern Germany. My parents built on that foundation and doubled the size in the late 1980's. Air conditioning was not a thing back then. You just didn't need it at all.
For decades this house has kept a relatively cool 24-25°C (~75°F) during peak summer months. Just due to the way it was built.
That hasn't been true for the past ~10 years anymore.
And it's the same with almost all German infrastructure. Our traditional ways of building things are not fit for the frequent high heatwaves we've been experiencing this last decade. Even hospitals are generally not AC'd except for maybe ER and operating rooms. It's fucking miserable
As an Australian, I am shitfucked....
Time to build a robot to look after the dog when I'm gone...
The best time to start building your own Thunderdome was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Don't worry, we're in the middle of a massive culture war at the moment, so there's absolutely no chance we can take steps to stop it unless we find a way to bury MAGA for good
Went to a concert here in central europe and we endured 45 degrees under the sun, people were fainting and getting naked but they didn’t let us in till after a full hour of late opening.
It's fucked, and we were warned decades ago and did nothing but drill, baby, drill.
A lot of people will die. Which I'm pretty sure they're fine with, less people= less expenses for social welfare programs, lower property values, and so on
"They" being the people in charge of our world-wide MegaForce economy, think JP Morgan and those who "serve" terms at The FED. (in actuality, they take turns reaming us, inflation is how central banks raise taxes without congressional approval).
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