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If not for the gulf stream (a constant sea water movement) Europe would be much colder and Northern America much warmer. I wonder if climate warming could potentially stop this gulf stream
The AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) is now creaking under the weight of all that Pacific heat in the ocean. If that goes - which is looking increasingly likely within the next 25-50 years - then sayonara Gulf Stream and Europe can look forward to what's likely to be extremely sub-zero winter temperatures and soaring summer temperatures.
I'm in the UK and I've bought an extra pair of mitts and a hand fan, so I'll be laughing
Just to be clear a collapsing AMOC is projected to slow the gulf stream but not stop it.
It's still very very bad though.
What are we talking about when you say extremely sub zero. As in -20c or colder?
I was flabbergasted the first time I realized just how far north Europe is, compared to North America.
Paris is at 48° 51' N, significantly further north than Toronto (43° N), Montreal (45° N). London is at 51°N 30', which is further north than Vancouver (49° N), and just slightly further north than Calgary (51°N).
Even southern European cities like Ibiza (39° N) are at comparable latitudes to northern American cities like Philadelphia (40°N) or even New York (41°N).
If Europe starts seeing climate comparable to similar latitudes in North America, that would represent a huge change from the recorded history.
Let's just put it this way. It is what was thought to have triggered previous ice ages.
Has an ice age ever started during a current ice age before?
There have been many interglacial periods.
Exactly that, yes. We rely on the Gulf Stream for our mild climate so, if that goes, we get the extremes in both summer and winter
-20c is nothing. It'll be a lot worse than that.
Europe won't just be colder, the weather will be more extreme in all directions. Hotter summers and colder winters, with stronger storms due to more extreme temperature variances. It will be a fun time all year round for everyone.
Time to figure out how to put the inside of a building six months away from its outside...
I'm just glad the past few winters were so mild here in romania the past few (5?) years. I dread a really cold winter.
Yes, it will be interesting!
Idk if rhetorical question but there's evidence (iirc, an atypically cold patch of water off of....Greenland?) that the gulf stream may already be breaking down.
Also crops. Nobody is talking about the crops
The peasants here are talking about them all the fucking time.