Sure, fuck it, that's communism. Death to communism, instead we must create a classless stateless society!
You know what my eyes are opened too —capitalism is when hard working Americans get all the capital and communist leeches aren't allowed to steal it just because they're in charge.
You know what goes well with capitalism? Democracy! You vote on your sheriff, so why vote for who your boss is at work, and how many sick days everyone gets? Let's go full capitalist!
Ya know, there might be something to that as a strat.
Words are just tools we made up. If fascists are willing to break the meaning of language to get what they want, maybe we can too!
Down with those communist fascists!!
And we'll protect our gloriously fought victory with a vanguard enforcing conformity to support the eventual relinquishing of power to the proletariat once there is no longer class and we have expanded our stateless society worldwide, thus vanquishing borders!
Just need to kill off done rabble rousing anarchists first...
I wish anarchy would work.
The thing where a warlord tells you what to do? No, death to anarchy, instead let's have a society where hierarchies are abolished and org charts are all rhizomatic and voluntary, with vigilant critiques of power differential with an eye to equalizing them as much as possible?
Sorry, what do you think anarchy is? Because what you're describing, no hierarchal society, voluntary... Uhh, THAT'S the definition of anarchy. Why do so many people think anarchism is just synonymous with chaos? That's just called chaos.
Homie is literally posting from an anarchist instance. This is satire lol.
What?!? Are you ok comrade?
The person who wrote the comment must be lobotized.
That's a troll
Seems to me they already have been
turns out everything people hate about communism is actually just stuff capitalism does.
Say it louder for the people in the back
But we have to be moderately responsible for the outcomes instead of just throwing our hands in the air and giving up!
It is what American boomers think “communism” is.
It’s also not too far separated from the Soviet Union, which represents “communism” in many peoples minds despite its fairly rapid departure from Marxist ideals.
For fun, when I was in school, I'd ask people what they thought of this and that all the time and I was very much impressed that "what is ____" are questions that don't have answers. Our education is fucked.
Generally, to boomers capitalism and communism is absolutely summed up with that drunk in the grocery store story.
Consumer choice is typically the vibes.
Ah yes, the Soviet union where rent capped out at 10% of your salary, and that's just in places without any labor incentives. If you were in a new industrial town your rent was free since it was you doing a favor to the people in moving to a remote area and having to live in a new city. That's totally the same thing as American capitalism and totally opposed to Marxist ideals...
10%! Where can I sign up?
1930s-1980s USSR. (Gorbachev's reforms really fucked with some areas before the collapse but the edge of the union was unharmed until the 1991 collapse wherein many former states of the USSR experienced homelessness as a problem for the first time in 70 years.)
Also some parts of China have rules of 0-25% of your salary depending on location, whether or not you were a rural citizen before moving to a rented home, and why you moved. (not that normal rent is far off from that thanks to the fact only 8% of the Chinese population doesn't own a home.)
"The elite telling the working class to stand in line and dictating what to pay for a living expense. That is not capitalism"
Man, this is on the same level as "nazism is leftist ideology because national SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!"
That has to be a troll account.
Not at all. Here in South Africa, the ruling ANC has spent the last thirty years demonstrating what perfect neoliberal capitalists they are... yet you'll still find plenty of local neo-nazis blubbering about the (supposedly) "socialist" ANC.
You don't understand! Communism is when bad things. And in capitalism nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.
Lol "Communism".
I mean, it is moving past capitalism and into something else, but that thing is feudalism.
It's wild to me that we just casually call them land lords... I'm literally just a serf paying rent to my lord. "Tenant" is just putting lipstick on it.
Happened to me. Lived in a building for multiple leases for $1100 -1300 a month over the course of seven years. Next renewal jumped to over $1800 per month. When I asked why, they said, "Because it's what people are willing to pay. "
Communism is when capitalism does something I don't like
I have a MAGA family member who says things like that all the time. Usually he starts by saying "the socialist aristocracy did [insert complaint about capitalism]..."
This is why the USSR and PRC did cultural revolutions and re-education camps.
Communism is when bad decision of politician affects entire nation.
Capitalism is when bad decision of a rich person affects entire nation.
Difference is that one of those people is elected in democratic system.
No, it's a dictatorship. Dictatorship of capital. Soviet union was also a dictatorship, which is why they also had elites that dictated how much of what you can have. It wasn't because of the communism that they had elites, it was because it was a dictatorship.
Of course the funny thing about capital is that it tends to accumulate, so you get a dictatorship pretty naturally.
I read the comments and I think they are all wrong.
Current capitalism is not capitalism at all, it's oligarchy. Capitalism originally originated from an idea of everyone having the same equal opportunities. Right now it does not capitalism, it is a oligarheism or whatever - a circle jerk to syphon your wealth and make you poor - capitalism aas never designed for this.
Communism is about equality dictated by the government which also implies government for some reason is not equal to basic citizen. And communism doesn't allow the ability to grow. However, communism on paper really guarantees your social safety in terms of you will not die, you will have food, you will have a house. However, on practice, it didn't really work well. And current community countries are actually socialism.
Something good is always in the middle. We can have a capitalist-like growth opportunities and regulations from the government and social guarantees. For example, like in most countries in Europe, you have a wealth guarantee, you have a social and job protection. and also strict regulations on terms of companies so they will not abuse their customers and they will not abuse their employees
The current comment section is just a fight for nothing. The problem is not in the system capitalism, socialism or communism. The problem is in a legar case and circlejerk - where even the government is in. So it actually becomes harder and harder to actually have a good thing in common reason in socialism and in capitalism.
Saying today is oligarchy not capitalism is like saying you don't have cancer you have stage four cancer
Communism is by definition a stateless society, not sure where you are getting those ideas about a communist government. Define "didn't work well". Nations such as Cuba have not achieved a communist utopia, but they did significantly improve the lives of their citizens in pretty much every way compared to pre revolutionary Cuba. Those states are obviously not communist and it is debatable to what extent they are socialist and not state capitalist.
Almost all European countries are currently in the process of removing as much of those social guarantees, which is a logically process that pretty inevitably happens as long capitalism exists.
Current capitalism is not capitalism at all, it’s oligarchy.
Gee... nothing oligarchical about a system where the rich hold all the power, eh?
Nothing at all, brightspark?
Communism is about equality dictated by the government
Really, brightspark? Nothing at all about a stateless, classless and moneyless society, eh?
The problem is not in the system capitalism,
Have you ever tried not eating paint flakes?
Something good is always in the middle. We can have a capitalist-like growth opportunities and regulations from the government and social guarantees.
Ehrm... The current system has caused the sixth mass extinction on the planet. Capitalism will inevitable collapse because it incentivizes ecocide.
Most intelligent liberal.
And capitalism when "voluntary exchange" in commodities
I guess call it whatever you want then?
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