However, none of the crocodiles involved in Thursday’s incident has been put down.

Gee... I wonder why.

So you were banned by pugjesus because they got high off their own supply again.

First time, I take it?

If you don't know what it feels like to try and save your prized In Utero cassette with a cheap BIC pen after it had been chewed up by your buddy's car player, have you even lived?

I guess the point is moot anyway... even my (somewhat) mild comments here have proven too much for the circlejerk.

exactly why if you want to run counterprop you have to set some boundaries

...which are already in place. This is a leftist-controlled space, is it not? And the rules there on the right gives the mods more than enough leeway to keep it that way, don't you think?

What it really comes down to, I'm beginning to think, is our willingness (or lack thereof) to engage the very people we (supposedly) want to expose to leftist thought.

by giving fascist nonsense presence we shift what the outcome of social osmosis is when people encounter verbal confirmation in space.

That only happens when we don't engage them by siloing ourselves into circlejerks. A good counter-narrative means absolutely nothing if it has no means of leaving said silo - we're just chucking energy and time at the choir for absolutely zero gain.

but that discussion needs to be had in good faith

No, it doesn't. You need half of the discussion to be, very obviously, in bad faith. Otherwise, there's absolutely nothing to shoot down, is there? You don't get traction from good faith discussion - you get traction from a "bad faith" narrative being demolished with a narrative the casual observer is unlikely to have encountered before. How many movies have you seen where only two protagonists spend the entire movie being nice to each other? There's a really good reason why they don't make movies like that - there'd be nothing to see.

the old age addage of “block and report. do not feed the trolls” stems from this notion

Where's the fun in that?

Not looking forward to this, I have to admit. I don't know which grosses me out more - all the MAGAs trying to get his putrid face carved onto Mt. Rushmore (or shit like that), or the (so-called) "progressives" crying crocodile tears for him like they did for that shitstain Kirk.

Gee... it's almost like all those crazy people who constantly call Israel terms like "white supremacist" and "settler-colonialist" weren't so crazy after all!

Who coulda thunk it?

Turning every leftist community into a siloed circlejerk is great if all you want is a glorified (and self-enshittifying) social club - but you're not going to be doing anything that can be called counter-propaganda with a straight face.

The latter actually requires engaging with people who will actively try and find the weak spots in your narratives while you are doing the same to theirs in a place where others can actually witness it and gain understanding through social osmosis, which, to be clear, text-based social media is really great for.

Come now, be honest... how much did you actually learn that way?

The point is... the whole reason the US lost the war and failed so abysmally at is also now the reason the US went to war in the first place (which the US then lost and failed abysmally at).

I don't agree.

A wannabe troll that posts really dumb shit that is childishly easy to shoot down is worth their weight in gold.

I'm old enough to remember when owning record players was the norm, but I don't remember anyone pirating anything - they weren't considered expensive. Cassette piracy in the 80s and early 90s - now that I do remember.

However, it certainly was a thing. In the USSR they figured out how to do it on discarded x-rays - which, I have to admit, is the most punk thing ever.