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Muslim and Arab Americans say their support was critical to Biden’s winning Michigan in 2020. Some warn they won’t back him again over his blanket support for Israel.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 149 points 1 year ago

Wonder what they think Trump would have done differently.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 91 points 1 year ago

Seriously. Trump is advocating turning Gaza into a parking lot.

And it's not like Democrats have exactly been shy of their general support of Israel, if you've paid any attention at all. They just also happen to acknowledge that Palestinians are people, unlike most Republicans.

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[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure don't vote Biden. Just vote for the fascist Republicans that previously banned people from muslim countries. That will work, right gaiz? Plus any Republican president won't ever send Gaza aid. Biden is sending aid.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206897197/biden-makes-deal-on-aid-delivery-to-gaza

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Does anybody else think that this "One strike and you're dead to me, regardless of how complex the issue is" thing is getting a little out of hand? The only winning move here is not to play, but then he would be attacked from both sides for appearing apathetic.

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So instead of diminished aid for Palestine, you’d rather… checks notes… travel bans for all middle eastern people trying to go to the US, except for people from a handful of governments who are actively giving Trump money?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Trump's son-in-law's middle east foreign policy plan for Israel that Palestinian supporting groups rejected and weren't consulted with further. Israel was to be allowed to annex existing settled positions, and no further expansion from either side. Israeli settlers haven't adhered to this "peace plan" anyway.

Any Americans staying home at elections, this type of foreign policy is what they tacitly support.

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[-] S_204@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Islam and far right Christianity have a lot in common. Wouldn't surprise me that the Muslim community would side with the party that wants to limit women's rights and LGBTQ rights.

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[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 74 points 1 year ago

Single issue voters are myopic

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Eh. I’d argue that if your single issue is climate change, you’re rather sharp sighted. But I take your point in general.

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

“I am willing to vote for a much worse actual fascist monster who will 100% use his presidency to destroy democracy and those that tried to hold him accountable, all because Biden… stood with an ally during a horrendous terrorist attack even though because of Biden Israel has slowed its roll and allowed aid in”

The full brainless take from that moron. What an emotionally stunted bullshit opinion

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Or they could just not vote at all like most Americans

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

In a two party system, abstention is a vote for the person you hate most.

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So, like, are they going to vote for the guy that literally has "banning Muslims" as a platform?

[-] superguy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

They might vote for neither.

[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

So a half vote for the party that wants them banned. Smart.

[-] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 56 points 1 year ago

Welp…good lucky with that other guy, whomever that might be.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

My feeling is that this "betrayed" part of Muslim is the socially conservative one that voted left because the right was racists and pro Israel. But if the left is pro Israel as well, then they might as well vote right to get conservative (pro life, misogynistic) policies forward

[-] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

TBH, the bizarre cognitive dissonance in all these religious types (pick one) bypasses all rational thought processes.

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[-] Random_German_Name@feddit.de 55 points 1 year ago

Ok, but then don‘t cry when Trump gets reelected

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

So their option would be...what?

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago

I will simply not vote, unless I get another decent option like Bernie Sanders. Any other genocide denying piece of shit can kick rocks.

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Bernie did a speech about his support of Israel just last week.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I will simply not vote

You may not see a choice that gets better in your single issue, but not voting may be a choice for the worse on many issues you also care about

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[-] mrpants@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

Genocide denying? Best I can tell Biden is in support of stopping the violence and negotiating peace which would be a two state solution.

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[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A man giving up his life for the USA is not enough to stop Trump from berating that soldier's surviving family publicly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khizr_and_Ghazala_Khan

If Arab and Muslim want to choose that over Biden because of Palestine well then I'll not contribute ever again to a rebuilding of the mosque in my community.

Consider my face eaten, leopards.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

religion makes people do the dumbest shit

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 38 points 1 year ago

If I have to choose between eating a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with broken glass, I'm gonna choose the one without the broken glass every time. So many people seem to think that eating the one with broken glass, or letting someone else choose, is somehow taking a stand against shit sandwiches.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, vote for a republican because that’s definitely not going to fuck you. And let’s fucking be real, all you pedants: a vote other than Biden is a vote for the republican traitor filth.

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[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

So who are they going to vote for then? I cannot believe that they would imagine Trump to be more sympathetic to their cause, if anything, Israel would receive even stronger backing were he the President

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Didn't he basically put a fire to the whole conflict by moving the embassy to Jerusalem?

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, they do have third-party options, so technically it's not an either/or.

Edit: Downvoted, apparently for acknowledging that third parties exist. That's f**ked up.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

...which have no chance of being anything other than just spoilers.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

They obvioualy haven't heard what Trump and the right said about Hamas then, or they wouldnt be thinking that way.

This is a best case scenario.

[-] cupcakezealot 32 points 1 year ago

because of biden we got the ground invasion put off and humanitarian aid flowing into gaza...

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[-] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

😂 lol so they want trump.... Who wants to wipe out all Muslims.

[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That makes no sense whatsoever to me. And I'm not alone, that I know for sure. I mean the whole ordeal: religion, war, hate, the economic construct of "nations" - I don't get it anymore. Actually never had.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population, which is much less than the margin of any presidential election in my lifetime, so I doubt Biden is losing too much sleep over this.

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[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Seems kinda weak, just stating who you don't support. And to be a single issue voter is dangerous.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Won't vote for Biden? Then you deserve Trump and all that comes with him.

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