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Muslim and Arab Americans say their support was critical to Biden’s winning Michigan in 2020. Some warn they won’t back him again over his blanket support for Israel.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

So their option would be...what?

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago

I will simply not vote, unless I get another decent option like Bernie Sanders. Any other genocide denying piece of shit can kick rocks.

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Bernie did a speech about his support of Israel just last week.

[-] Raymonf@lemmy.uhhoh.com 14 points 1 year ago

It seems like he supports keeping an ally and also minimizing human suffering. Curious where I can find that speech of his? Is it in line with these press releases of his?

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It was during the senate debate about support for Israel and Ukraine

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Good statements. Condemning Hamas while acknowledging the suffering in Gaza. And I read it in his voice lol.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I will simply not vote

You may not see a choice that gets better in your single issue, but not voting may be a choice for the worse on many issues you also care about

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't think people understand that elections are a zero sum game (especially in a two party system). Not voting essentially becomes a vote for the other party, since one less vote lowers the threshold for one party to win over the other.

[-] Glytch@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

What if you don't like either side equally? Which side does your non-vote go to? Or, by your logic, are you technically voting twice for the negative aspects of both sides?

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] spider@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Upvoted to offset the inevitable downvotes you'll get from our (hive) minders.

[-] Glytch@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

I can't not upvote a Simpsons reference.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

Since Republicans can and do win the presidency without a popular majority, I'd say not voting at all favors them. They understand this and it's why they always try to reduce voter turnout.

[-] Glytch@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

That's honestly a fair argument, and stated well.

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

No amount of mental gymnastics is going to convince me to vote for someone who actively aided a genocide.

[-] mrpants@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

Genocide denying? Best I can tell Biden is in support of stopping the violence and negotiating peace which would be a two state solution.

[-] saraabi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He referred to the calls for a ceasefire as "abhorrent"

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

100% sounds like you're talking out your ass right now, but if you have a source I'll change my mind.

[-] saraabi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sorry he said "disgraceful" not abhorrent, but, yeah I feel you on the cognitive dissonance, it's a bizarre take.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Not choosing is still making a choice

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