$500 USD -> $400 USD for those of you that don't want to click.
Ok just $350 more to reduce
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"Consumers can now choose whether to add Commodore’s custom-designed Hi-Def IEM earphones during checkout, rather than needing to pay for them when they may already own a pair they love. Premium memory will be available as an option, with Callback defaulting to rigorously stress-tested “post-consumer” high-speed memory chips, backed by Commodore’s identical, comprehensive 1-Year warranty."
so.. to lower the retail by $100... earbuds not included, and reclaimed ewaste memory chips (hopefully that does not also include the main storage) now the default configuration.
Phones cheaper than USD$400 tend to have 4 year old chipsets*, so imo if they've beaten that, they've probably done well against the current market. By my standards a posture dumbphone should be cheaper, but it's obviously marketing to a different demographic than e.g. Oneplus Nord and the now-dead iPhone SE. At the very least it might be a cool museum piece
*modified for accuracy
Phones cheaper than USD$400 tend to have 6-8year old chipsets
What area of the world are you from? Just curious where there is such a state of affairs.
This is definitely not true for Asia and Europe. It been a while since I was living in North America, but this didn't seem true back then. Although I lived in a city and didn't buy through carriers and never dealt with carrier blocking independently bought phones.
Perhaps North American carrier requirements have changed since then.
What the heck‽ Is it gold-plated‽
Phone? No. But the CEO's yacht is.
As far as I remember comodore is owned by youtuber
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/commodores-been-bought-by-a-youtuber-whos-re-assembling-key-execs-and-already-teasing-new-hardware/
Amusingly, Commodore's statement says the [high prices were] triggered by an "explosion of new technologies" but stops short of specifying exactly what those technologies were. That perhaps shouldn't be surprising given Simpson's love of GenAI and its use in Commodore's promotional material thus far, but it's somewhat ironic that one of the reasons for the high price is, in Commodore's case, self-inflicted to a degree.)
I'm starting to dislike this CEO
The other big question, even though Simpson goes into some detail on this, is how the deal is going to be financed. A share purchase agreement is in place for those "low seven figures," Simpson says he's re-mortgaged to get this far, and adds that "household names who don't want to be named" are interested before name-dropping Elon Musk (whose computing career began on a Commodore). They're looking for angel investors, but there's no indication of the timeframe on any deal.
So it’s basically owned by musk, got it
He wouldn't be the first person begging Elon Musk for attention, though. Anybody remember Elon Goat Token?
Even if he doesn't secure Elon as an investor, the simping does not look good.
I work in product management, this was not a marketing ploy.
Supplies are expensive now. They are cutting into their margin considerably and probably did find some slightly cheaper components. Maybe they cut a better deal with the suppliers.
Either way, they are playing smart by listening to the market on an untested product in a new product category of “semi-smart” phones. This could signal a comeback of this type of product but only if they pave the way with affordability and usability.
I hope this does succeed for them because we need more companies taking risks in today’s market. Everything is so bland right now.
You can't claim privacy first, promise you wont sell user data, then preinstall whatsapp.
These three things cannot all be true. At any price.
Lol Whatsapp as a system app sounds like a nightmare.
The usuall approach established by Samsung etc. is to bundle a few "shim" apps as system apps for Meta. One shim is used by the regular Meta apps to bypass restrictions and talk to each other, one collects data from any app that uses the Meta ad network, and some are there in case you install the corresponding user app (eg. Facebook) to give it system privileges.
I mean it ends up technically the same as having Whatsapp bundled outright, but you gotta give props to a manufacturer so shamelss they don't even pretend to hide it. 😃
That’s more like it!
And I completely disagree with the people saying it should be much cheaper.
It’s a LTE Linux computer. In 2026. With multiple screens, a 48MP camera, good DAC, enough power to run real Android apps and tons of bells and whistles; what do you expect?
Electronics are expensive, unless it’s cheap garbage, heavily subsidized, or both. That has a huge externalized cost, and avoiding that is the whole point of this phone. R&D, customer service, and continued software support for the translation layer and OS, must crazy expensive too.
I know wages haven’t gone up with inflation, which makes $400 hard to afford, but that’s not in Commodore’s control.
If one wants a cheaper AliExpress Android fliphone, that’s reasonable.
But it’s not the same product. And you’re going to pay for it in other ways.
This, I think the price is decent. Most dumbphones are low cost but you notice it - terrible buttons, slow camera, lackluster audio. On top of that they have no coolness factor. This is a phone that ticks all boxes and is privacy friendly. On top of that, it is from a company I like to support.
the cheap flip phones are truly dollar-store build quality and cameras. mine has a crappy radio, it seems, too.. nearly always roaming on another carrier's nearby tower because it can't pick up the vzn one just a couple miles outside of town.
the 'rugged' ones are built better and can take a literal beating and still work, but they cost as much as a recent model 128gb smart phone.. and still have squat for storage and lousy cameras.
Android fliphone
Not interested. Want SailfishOS.
1st-party supported SailfishOS, to be specific.
That's huge, to me.
Yeah! I have a Sony Xperia 10 III, but the SailfishOS support is kinda... not officially supported in the US?
Saying "lte Linux that can run Android" means nothing. All Android phones run Linux and support LTE. It's an Android phone with restrictions on what Android apps it will run. That's it. The screen is tiny and two small screens are cheaper than a larger one.
You can buy all of that for $100 on Aliexpress.
This is trash dressed up in a fun skin to sell to Commodore fans who don't know how to delete an app from their phone.
It's not Android. It's SailfishOS. With first party support.
And even that aside, I don't see anything comparable on Aliexpress, hardware wise.
lol, it’s worth $100
There’ll probably be several to choose from on AliExpress at that price point.
Really? I am in.
Holy shit you weren't kidding
Edit. fixed
holy mother of tracker URLs! lol
we fit all yer favorites in this sum bitch
That is concerning amount of query parameters.
Was $500 now $400 still lol.
Didn't Nokia still make dumbphone and only cost double digits? With $400 i can just get a decent smartphone and then install app locker and lock all irrelevant app in it.
Or get something that run on non-bloatware OS and don't download
Atari should make a pager. It also runs on Android software. It will cost $800. It comes with belt clip.
It's just a flip phone with Android running on it like every other flip phone with Android running on it that they've produced over the last 5 years. Commodore never even made phones historically, I don't understand why I should care about this.
Its not running android.
I know people tend to open their mouth without having read the article, but you didnt even bother to read the thread text. Congratulations.
Yeah but it runs Android apps so it might as well be an Android phone. Again it's just a cheap flip phone being priced extraordinarily and branded with a company that never made smartphones or dumb phones or phones of any kind as far as I'm aware.
$399, what? This is tech from over a decade ago, there are smart phones that sell for under $100. Seems like a stupid gimmick only wealthy parents will buy for their kids.
I'm more concerned about the dictatorial-feeling attitudes in the marketing than I am about the price. I'm all for a privacy respecting phone, but an even higher priority than that is respecting me and my choices. Blocking me from social media doesn't feel like it's catering to me, it feels like its nannying me and dictating my choices to me. That's not something I'm interested in at any price.
I realize that I will, in reality, be able to choose whether to leave those blocked, but having them blocked by default feels just as aggressively judgemental and disrespectful as preinstalling them and shoving them in my face like most existing brands do. It's not your place to tell me what apps to use or not to use. Give me a fucking blank slate, and let me decide, thankyouverymuch.
The ~~CAT~~ S22 is $150. It doesn't have the same hardware, but I don't see $250 worth of upgrades between that one and this.
Definitely closer than asking $350 more, though. And it's not like Sailfish functionality is worth nothing.
bought and used one of these. it sucks ass. if you want something dependable dont get this. keypresses on the dialpad dont register half the time which nade t9 input impossible. also you must install a 3rd party app to use t9 as your main input. stock rom pops the qwerty touch keyboard on the yiny screen for every input
So still $100 more than a LightPhone II, an already somewhat pricey 'detox phone', or about the same price as a used Moto RAZR if you just wanted a flippy phone made of pre-owned components
I'm still on the fence about it but the price drop does move the needle a little. I'm still going to wait to make a decision until it comes out then give it a couple of months.
"We worked tirelessly to lower the price...and by subtracting 100 we managed it goddammit"
I want one, but I don't think they're going to get the pricing near anywhere where it becomes a reality.
That said, I'm really happy that this product has at least started a conversation. I would 100% prefer a dumb flip phone than the advertising machine in my pocket. There is a suggestion of a market; we'll see if the industry is too far up their own ass to respond.
Sadly I don't think the revamped Commodore will have the clout to pull it off.
Nostalgia-bait isn't going to make addictive social media go away, and these devices will probably end up with easily foiled workarounds to get to those services anyway.
Also, did Commodore even used to make flip phones? I had a legendary indestructible Nokia brick, Motorola flip phones, and one really shitty Samsung flip phone. I'd feel nostalgic for something from them if it had the same design (but not the shitty Samsung phone), not for a pseudo-oldschool actually-it's-just-Android-but-less-functional phone.
an incredible endorsement of our vision
Fake, and the price is still ridiculous. Nostalgia-bait as someone else said.
I'd do up to $200 for nostalgia (given inflation and component prices like RAM).
I would be interested if I knew which networks it works on….
GSM, WCDMA, and 4G LTE
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