Boo hoo my shares in a company owned by a fascist and with absolutely awful revenue in comparison to it's valuation are losing value just as expected
cry me a river
Boo hoo my shares in a company owned by a fascist and with absolutely awful revenue in comparison to it's valuation are losing value just as expected
cry me a river
All of this.
*its. You wanted "its". It's means "it is".
I know, but thanks anyway.
After briefly pushing SpaceX’s market value close to $3 trillion, investors have begun reassessing whether the stock’s rapid advance can be justified by fundamentals.
Nothing in the stock market has been about fundamentals for a very long time. Especially regarding Musk companies.
I believe Uber was the company to break the fundamentals game
The entire fundamentals game was broken back in around 2012 when, in the aftermath of the 2008 Crash, Central Bank meetings setting interest rates became more important in setting the direction the Stock Market took (up if they lowered interest rates, down if they did not) than fundamentals.
It just so happens that the period when Uber rose coincided with that period of high interventionism by Central Banks which lasted almost a decade since their solutions for the 2008 Crash did not address the underlying causes and the recovery following that Crash was one of the slowest post-Crash recoveries ever (in fact, Interest Rates and GDP Growth are still not back to their historical trends).
It wasn't Uber who broke the Financial System's reflection of real wealth creation, it was Zero Interest Rate Policy flooding the Economy with pretty much free money and Too Big To Fail meaning that certain Financial Institutions could do every Financial Crime they felt like and never really be punished for it and take any risk they felt like because Central Bank money was always there in the background to save them if they went too far.
So the pump dumped?
Wow. Such surprise. /s
I mean, is it really an IPO if it isn't insanely overpriced when initially offered?
Yeah, I would say it's quite usual to see a big dip right from the start. It's just hamsters for whom buying Space X is their first trade don't know about that
Initially no, they're designed to be under so that it surges after ipo, that makes it look good performance.
Well this one's designed to slip quickly into index funds and forced buying, so it makes sense to be high.
Saying the average buyer is almost underwater is another way of saying that the average buyer has made a profit.
The media does this constantly with Elon.
They would have to realize that profit and to do that they'd have to sell. Any meaningful quantity of "average buyers" cashing out would certainly result in most of them selling at a loss as the price dips below their break even.
Stock that has existed for exactly two weeks moves in any direction
"The people who bought this IPO are going to have their lives changed forever."
Oh look, the completely expected and basically dependable event that happens after EVERY IPO, happened. Anyone jumping on an initial IPO is a fucking idiot. They always go under.
They might eventually still make it back to be profitable if they wait months or even years... or they could have waited a few weeks and bought the inevitable dip and never been underwater in the first place, making more profit.
The only IPO I ever jumped on was ARM Holdings, and that actually ended up doubling within a couple weeks. Made a tidy profit on it, then dumped it when it plateaued.
Bet you wish you held it now though. Up about 7x since it first opened.
Man, I was having a good day, too...
A win is a win!
Notably ARM was not mainstream when it IPOd either, meaning it was a safe(r) bet at the time.
Most IPOs have become sensationalized to drive up interest, which is terrible for everyone except a select few.
I'm not sure what you mean. It already had complete dominance of the smartphone market, which was, at the time, still growing.
We in this forum are a specific type, few use lemmy, and few invest in Arm directly.
SpaceX and Arm aren’t comparable, f.e. I know a college student investing in Space X, as well as an Elderly man, a cousin of mine who works in marketing, etc. It’s normal joes who want in. That never happened to Arm, and I’d be surprised if it ever does. It won’t be mainstream. I don’t know anyone personally who invests in Arm other than myself.
I’m talking about norms and sensationalism, not the state of a technology.
Yes, sometimes gambling pays out.
$185 is still way above the already ridiculous IPO price of $135. If this market made any sense, it wouldn't have gotten this high in the first place, but since we're here, it should really continue dropping. However, knowing how this market is, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a momentary dip before going back up for some dumb made-up reason.
Yeah, unerring faith in the magical powers of Elon continues to be a hell of a drug. Tesla does not remotely justify its current valuation either.
Good :D
That was the entire point of the IPO wasn't it? Funnel money to Elon and his friends and leave the rest of the (less connected) idiot investors holding the bag? Anyone who didn't own before it could sell wasn't one of the in-crowd that was supposed to be handed money. If you did buy, you weren't buying based on any business fundamentals and should have known to sell as soon as any gain could be realized which would have been hours or even minutes after buying.
Someone more knowledgeable than me please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of the original private investors have been capable of selling anything and I don't think they will be able to for another 30 or 60 days.
And IMO, I think Elon is thoroughly convinced that he will have another Tesla stock situation on his hand, where it generally keeps going up unreasonably for many many years.
There's a lockup period ya. I heard they reduced the duration though, but it's typically 6 months.
Anyone who bought at $135 the money went into SpaceX's balance sheet.
For now, anyone buying after the $135 is buying from people who bought those $135 shares.
Mark Cuban is famous for having zero cost collared his shares that he couldn't sell and getting out of the dotcom bubble with his money since it protected him from the downside that happened, so maybe it's possible they've done that here as well?
-digs around in depths of my heart for some sympathy-
Nope, fresh out.
Omg. How?? Nobody foresaw this
lol ... psychopaths and sociopaths with a never ending thirst for profit are surprised that infinite growth no matter how much you want to believe in it can not sustain itself are surprised when their money can't magically grow any more.
What do you mean by “the average buyer.” Wouldn’t all buyers currently be in the same exact position?
I've read that there are masses that are now shorting the stock too, and they're making money on the dip. Those wouldn't be your average buyer. Although idk if any of that is considered in that statement from the author.
Wow, who could have seen that coming?
Great now we can write smug articles about how much Elon “lost” next week.
So they’re…. in profit.
Gotta try find a way to make space X sound bad, right?
I bought some around 150 when the IPO first hit, I watched it jump to ~200, and then I got scared and sold it the following Monday around 190-ish. It's been holding around 185, but I'm just not sure what's going to happen with the stock.
Don't pay attention to me I'm just a guy on the Internet.
Back when Facebook stock took a slide after the initial IPO, I bought at $25 and sold at $50 a year later, thinking I had absolutely cleaned up.
Yup I went back and forth of whether or not to keep my shares but it was only like three so I wasn't going to be a millionaire anyway.
Short?
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