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[-] carotte 122 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they're the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they're building tons of housing to handle population growth. they're financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?

no? just wars again? okay.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 month ago

Chinese people own their homes too

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don't want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.

[-] carotte 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell

it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol

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[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago

I've never had to use the term 'Passive-Aggressive Infrastructure' before but I'm here for it and loving it

[-] tpyo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] axx@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago

Fascinating as it may be, that's a pretty horrible picture.

Imagine living that house. It's a pretty stark demonstration of the state gets what it wants, one way or another.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, "We had to show them we were the boss".

From AI to A-bombs, there's nothing you can't get away with by insisting "China Bad! This will stop them!"

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

We are operating from a position of strength!

[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 10 points 1 month ago

They can't admit the only reason has been "Money!"

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

And not even the country's, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago

It's a very convenient go-to excuse. And as long as the American public keeps lapping it up, those in power will keep counting on it.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 month ago

The US is basically a "this is good for bitcoin", but as a country.

Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain's.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I, for one, think it's funny.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 month ago

China: "Wow they're a lot less tough than we thought"

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[-] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago

I'd put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there's been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don't know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they're only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.

[-] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.

[-] subverted_per 9 points 1 month ago

Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it's these two ideas that have taken over discourse.

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.

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[-] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Unironically many debate clubs practice and teach this

[-] mecen@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago

I thing losing $400b will greatly help to put china in its place

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

China and Iran are allies.

If the US and China go to war Iran will close the strait to their enemies. And we’ve seen the US is impotent to that and overly reliant on oil.

I think China just has to deal with a first strike from the US and then wait for an impotent United States to fall apart and starve.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think your last point is pretty accurate. The US side has done a bunch of war games for a Taiwan invasion situation. In these games, the US side barely wins. To me, that's evidence the US probably loses. All of the Chinese decision making is done by US military people that think like the US military. If the PLA acts differently, they could easily be in a better position. Also, the Chinese capabilities will be based on US intelligence. Unless the Pentagon knows everything about missile ranges, warhead sizes, magazine depth, aircraft speeds and ranges, etc, they won't be able to anticipate a capability they didn't know about.

Probably most importantly, China has a vast industrial base and would be much closer to the fighting. All they really have to do is use up the US missile stockpiles and shoot down a few planes (probably while they're just parked in Okinawa). Once the war becomes about who can manufacture more missiles and planes to replace losses, there's no way the US will be able to keep up. If it becomes a protracted war, the US loses by default.

Edit: also, I'm not so sure Iran would close the straight. But I don't think it would matter because part of the US plans involve closing the Malaca straight to starve the Chinese of oil. They'll do it themselves.

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

How can people be so delusional?

"When their salary depends on it" is a decent first answer.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Whoever wrote this is an idiot.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago
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[-] Ardha@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah giving away the weakness of all our equipments iranians hurt to china is such a huge deterrant bruv

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

Remember folks, the guy is a master of the deal

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

And as His Orangeness has said, Ghina is expensive.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

The war was a shit show by a shitty government.

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[-] Smeef@crazypeople.online 5 points 1 month ago
[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Love your instance name

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