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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

My favorite systemd moment was when Lennart and Kay shouted "systemdeez nutz!" in the kernel mailing list and then proceeded to systemd all over the place.

[-] lastweakness@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I'd use it if it's as good as systemd.

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact Systemd/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux.

[-] prole 4 points 1 day ago

Here's the thing. You said "Systemd/Linux is Linux."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies Linux, I am telling you, specifically....

Eh fuck it, you get the idea

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I wonder what Unidan is doing these days.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Probably still playing with his jackdaws.

[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 days ago

Format your drive with ddd

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

disk destroyer deluxe

[-] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

I had to check the sub, as that was convincing!

[-] aurelar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Don't give them ideas.

[-] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 57 points 2 days ago

You had the chance to call it SystemdOSd and somehow you missed it. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

Also why aren't you including the most important piece, systemd-antivirusd?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have no idea where the antivirus came from?
OP uses mostly actual examples of Linux functionality.
I have never used nor needed an antivirus on Linux. And I haven't heard that systemd should have anything special in that area either.

[-] mech@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

Antivirus in the classical sense is an outdated concept anyway.
Nowadays, if you want to protect your system, you need endpoint protection that supervises everything with system-level root access and only allows whitelisted processes to run.

[-] rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago

rmd -rfd /d --nod-preserved-rootd

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago
[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Userd is not listed in sudoers.filed. Lennart poettering will now teleport behind you

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Nothingd personelld

[-] fnrir 4 points 1 day ago
[-] rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

i always run my shelld as rootd 😎

D-Bus Daemond is superceded by systemd-busd

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

Enjoying the term daemond.

[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago

PulseAudio? We are at Pipewired now!

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Absolutely, but I guess the joke is that Pulseaudio was also a project headed by Lennart Poettering.
Pulse was much hated by some, but actually brought substantial improvements to the Linux audio stack at the time.

The transition to Pipewire however has been amazingly smooth by comparison. I haven't detected any downsides, and the switch caused zero issues.

[-] khanh@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago
[-] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hardwared killed me. Am I crazy to assume it will be available for both x86d and x86d-64d?

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Since it's "open source", we could start experimenting with our own circuitry, implementing the new Booleand logic: ANDD, ORD, XORD, NOTD and all that good stuff. See if we can tinker together a few instruction setsd.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 22 points 2 days ago

I honestly thought systemd-homed seemed like a pretty sweet idea, last time I heard about it. Of course it was mostly just people screaming how systemd was literally hitler for even suggesting it

[-] esc@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

Almost every project under systemd umbrella is great, most distros really underutilize it's capabilities.

[-] black0ut@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Arch adopted systemd-homed and, at the time, I didn't even know what it did. But it somehow borked my system. I never needed it, it was added for no reason, and like a lot of systemd features, it broke stuff.

I'm still salty about systemd-networkd messing up my network. Or about systemd-resolved taking over my custom DNS.

I have so many systemd packages blacklisted atp, and I don't even want to. But they keep breaking shit.

This is just an anecdote and it may not be representative of anything, but that's my 2 cents.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time.
Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshittification.

Remember before systemd the most popular init system was upstart, and upstart was buggy as hell, with very serious bugs that existed for years without being fixed, because the basic design of init systems made it very very hard (impossible). and upstart was arguably the best among the rest. But because Ubuntu also switched to systemd, upstart has been deprecated because Upstart was an Ubuntu project.

systemd was an entirely new design strategy that fixed errors that had been impossible to fix with traditional init systems.
However some still prefer System V init, and I think Gentoo still uses that as default, I suppose because they find it better (easier to use) for tinkerers that micro-control everything.

But IMO the design of systemd seems like pure genius, really a solution to a problem that needed fixing.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit.

but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.

My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It's stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Yep, turns out technology enthusiasts who have a vested interest in an operating system are an opinionated bunch

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ive been riding SystemD for its faults since the beginning. The age verification was just one more on the pile.

[-] SigHunter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

Gentoo offers systemd and OpenRC, not SysV

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

OK thanks apparently OpenRC is a further development of Sysvinit, having many similarities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC

Parallel service startup (off by default)

This is probably because it's still hard to get to work without handcrafting for a particular system, IMO a very telling difference between the old init designs contrary to systemd that handles parallel startups like a champ.

[-] black0ut@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

In my experience, booting using single threaded inits (at least in their early stages) actually speeds up the process. The overhead from multithreaded startup on something as simple as an init system can hurt startup performance, especially on older CPUs.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Of course you need a CPU capable of multi threading, which today means any CPU, but then there is no doubt that the multithreaded init process is way faster.
This was thoroughly tested when systemd demonstrated it.
Single threaded init processes have bottlenecks, and a single issue will stall the whole process. Of course systemd only influence boot speed of user space, but the Linux kernel itself is also multithreaded in it's boot processes today, because it is without a doubt faster.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did.

But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing.

At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I'm using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There were pros and cons, I get the annoyance with the binary vs text files.
But systemd booted faster than upstart, despite upstart was made for speed and systemd was made for being robust. The robustness of systemd however made it possible to make the ini process multithreaded and still work flawlessly, where old ini systems tend to have race conditions that make it near impossible.
systemd is more robust, faster and more flexible, so how it wasn't great remains a mystery to me?

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[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Minor notes, then we can begin implementation

Only systemd is in PID1, login, journal, etc are their own PIDs

Surely we'd use pipewired, not pulseaudiod

Graphics and system ram may be unified, so we need a RAMArbitord that is shared between the main kernel and DRM blocks

[-] hildegarde 7 points 1 day ago

I'm hyped for the systemd web browser and systemd 3D modeling software. It will be the full system one day.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

That's pretty much what GNU is about, just technologically superior.

[-] gooeyglob@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Replaced my third system with artix and could not be happier.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Inevitable.

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