Me when people forget about Wallace and Gromit.
I think about this scene so much whenever I'm doing a project
'Propping up the stop motion film industry' is quite the statement. Aardman Animaton has been releasing feature length stop motion movies since 2000 and all have done very well. Also Laika only worked on Corpse Bride of Tim Burton's multiple very successful stop motion movies.
Are you not counting claymation? Because i'm sure that Wallace and grommit would like a word.
I mean at least he's doing something productive with his wealth. That puts him insanely far ahead of most wealth babies.
What do you mean „financially successful“? The movie Kubo from 2016 had more revenue than budget. Is that not successful?
It is a damn good movie btw.
https://bombreport.com/yearly-breakdowns/2016-2/kubo-and-the-two-strings/
Breakdown here.
No, it was a loss.
Isn't that standard Hollywood accounting?
E.g. Return of the Jedi never made a profit either, on paper
I love Hollywood accounting. We collectively acknowledge it's a very real thing because we are all not dumb but at the same time whenever we don't agree with something we can also simply use it as a crutch.
Now that said you may be right, but you may also be wrong. Who knows? 🤷♂️
Ah, so basically Marketing is not included in the budget. And theaters take a big cut from the revenue.
Yep. Things we normally don't look at when budget to revenue conversations happen.
Sounds like the type of things normal dudes say when asked what they'd do if they won the lottery. Maybe Travis is a normal dude under the nepotism?
I think that's what the last section of the post was referencing
yeah, the
reminiscent of how artists previously would be financially supported by wealthy benefactors.
i need to find myself a wealthy benefactor who likes [music form not appreciated outside one town in the eastern US and i like where i live dammit]
Wes Anderson put out a wildly successful stop motion picture in 2009.
Consistently, sure, but that doesn’t actually mean it’s dead.
Or here me out.... we tax him and his dad. Then use the money to pay stop animation artists so they arent beholden as some rich kids pet project. could even start a few studios instead of one. Early 00's there were a few independant stop motion artists. Only reason they still arent around is due to art grant funding.
This sounds nice but I expect it will not work as good in reality plus there may be more artists than money if we limit it to only those two.
Tax everyone properly and provide basic income sounds like a way to go anyway
Thats what what i meant. Artists should have better access to funding and foundational wage streams such as a basic income that Ireland is currently doing with musicians.
Isle of Dogs is one of my favorite movies
Oh shit he did it again in 2018, haven’t seen that but it’s going on my list!
Isn't Aardman (shaun the sheep, wallace & gromit) still consistently put out stopmotion? Or are they just cheating the visual style with 3d animation?
Yeah, Aardman are very much still stop motion (with a few tiny cheats, the stadium audience in Early Man and the sea in Pirates on an Adventure with Scientists).
Pirates on an Adventure with Scientists
damn, that's a better title than the US got
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates!_In_an_Adventure_with_Scientists!
The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists! (released outside the UK as The Pirates! Band of Misfits) is a 2012 stop-motion animated swashbuckler comedy film directed by Peter Lord and written by Gideon Defoe, based on his 2004 novel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates!_in_an_Adventure_with_Communists
The Pirates! in an Adventure with Communists is the third book in The Pirates! series by Gideon Defoe to feature his hapless pirate crew. It was published in 2006 by Orion Books (ISBN 0-297-84867-4).[1]
This book follows the adventures of the Pirate Captain and his crew through Paris and London—accompanied by Karl Marx and his sidekick Friedrich Engels—as they attempt to clear the communists' good name after it is sullied by Richard Wagner and his malevolent benefactor, Friedrich Nietzsche. The fictionalized version of Nietzsche wears a large mechanical exoskeleton, and plots to take over Europe so he can get a girlfriend.
woaw
I liked Kubo and the Two Strings a lot.
However, Mathew McConaughey? He was a very strange choice for voice talent in that film. It did not fit the aesthetic at all, he stuck out like a sore thumb. That southern drawl thing he's got in a movie that has primarily Asian characters? Well all right all right all right.
Thank you! I hated his voice for that character. Love the movie, but I feel that was such a mistake.
Aardman Animations: excuse me?
Aren't all artists dependent of some rich guys or rich guy's wifes?
I saw an art exhibition recently, I am not able to buy a 200€ pillow.
this is actually a positive story, and reminiscent of how artists previously would be financially supported by wealthy benefactors
Idk that sounds profoundly negative to me lmao
If I had that dude's wealth I would be putting so many artists on my payroll.
It sounds like he is.
I don't get the negative comments, dude could have multiplied his wealth with some good real estate investments and milk tenants for the rest of his life, instead he chose to hire some artists in a dying industry. What a terrible thing to do when you're born rich.
I've worked for a few big CEOs kids, they're a bit fucked in the head because they really don't have to do anything ever. The ones I met seemed to be lounge around hippies who travelled to festivals when they felt like it. I walked one kid through his mothers offices while he picked out furniture he wanted for the house he's just gotten in a trendy part of town. Many thousands of dollar pieces of corporate furniture that he could pick and choose from.
So the Kid of Mr Nike helping keep stop motion alive is cool with me. I really liked "Strings" but I'm not sure if this guy is involved.
In a non-cap society, do stop motion movies still get created by enthusiasts?
I think so.
There are certainly worse ways to spend your obscene wealth.
Did he fall far away from that shit family tree, or does he have his dad's politics?
I talked to some folks who worked at Laika a while back at a party. They loved working there. This was some years ago, and my memory is a bit beer soaked, but they seemed happy and proud of what they did.
i don't know the full story but iirc that was how the band Supertramp stayed afloat until they were successful, patronage from some rich guy
Respectfully, can you clarify, please? "Under-perform" is a term you used repeatedly. These movies were successful, yes? They made more money than they cost to make them...? I don't give half a shit how much money rich assholes expect a project to make. We know how creative Hollywood Accounting can be, so I have a hard time seeing how you can say they weren't "financially successful"...
As long as you don’t piss off your patron.
Got some sources to share? The quick search I did doesn't support your argument.
Also, Aardman is a rocking studio with quite a history. (Yes, I know they went digital for a bit after the fire)
Funny timing I just saw a trailer for Wildwood and it looks SICK
wait what.
oh whew i thought you were talking about my buddy who used to be at Will Vinton. he's not rich.
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