992
submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by Deep@mander.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] its_kim_love 223 points 4 weeks ago

Literally every type of age verification ever put into place has been circumvented by children. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

[-] Watermark710@piefed.social 97 points 4 weeks ago

When I was little, my mom used to send me to the store with a note that said to sell me cigarettes, and that they were for her. When I started smoking, I used to reuse the notes to get my own smokes. I got my first fake ID at 13 so I could buy beer.

[-] i078@europe.pub 64 points 4 weeks ago

When I was 13 I could just buy beer, the trick was to make it look like you are helping your parents with groceries. So also pickup stuff like a carton of eggs, potatoes and milk. I never had any issue, but it was a different time and in Europe

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that last bit is key.

In German I think we were drinking in the clubs at that age. No “helping the parents with the eggs and milk” lol

[-] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 10 points 4 weeks ago

My mum did the same thing she stopped when I used the £20 note to buy sweets, that was a lot of sweets back then.

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 9 points 4 weeks ago

I guess its a good thing that the point if this is just to tie a real human to their online presence and protecting kids never actually mattered.

You know, for a given value of "good" being "actually very very bad".

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 204 points 4 weeks ago

Age verification bypass tool soon to be made illegal:

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago
[-] StillAlive@piefed.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

John Oliver

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago

It’s simply impossible to tell.

[-] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, obviously an adult, but I admit I'm a little unsure about which one. Hope that helps.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 80 points 4 weeks ago

I can’t wait to email this to my MP

Canada Bill S209 needs to die. It’s bad legislation.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck, didn’t realize this cancer had reached Canada

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 62 points 4 weeks ago

I'm in my mid thirties and I'd still buy a mask or something to trick these systems if and when this becomes a thing in my country.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

Guy Fawkes uses a lot of online services.

[-] mynameisbob@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Same I have absolutly no respect for big tech

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 59 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who spent my formative days figuring out how to bypass early digital locks my school was putting in place to "protect us" ... The system loses this game. Every time. You are taking kids with nothing but time, no apparent drawbacks, and everything to gain... And placing them against "good enough" implemented by people who could give two shits about it.

This will continue to lose until they twist the knobs too tight and hit false positive central... And oops now the populace hates it. Control for thee is fine until its for me.

Tale as old as technology itself.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Mine was simple, but great. IE was hidden/removed in our typing class, maybe 5th grade. I guessed you could type a www.domain.tld in Word and when you pressed space, got a clickable URL that was still tied to IE. I knew about the URL, but learned it would still open with IE hidden. 🤣🤣

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 54 points 3 weeks ago

How about instead of trying every complicated stupid way to regulate users and especially children ..... you regulate and control companies and corporations instead.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 64 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not about the kids. It’s about knowing who is organizing protests, unions, and calling out wage theft, polluters, and whistleblowing illegal activities performed by the government and Epstein class.

It’s about preventing access to online spaces, monetary transactions, and basically letting them erase you from society if you don’t offer them full-throated gratuity and allegiance.

You know, just like ChInAs sOcIaL cReDiT sYsTeM.

As usual here in the West, every accusation is a confession (or at least an idea for later)

[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s been that way for ages around the world. The 2000s were full of news stories from places like Russia, with protests about the actions of their government and the treatment of political opposition. Those stories have largely died down, not because Russia changed, but because they clamped down on dissent. The US is just catching up. It wasn’t just Russia either. We’ve seen this globally with most major political activities over the last decade or more. Where once we were getting video of events in real time, now they’ve learned to shut down the internet, censor the digital forums, 'flood the zone'. Where once you could be critical of this government or that, it has become an internet of heavily commercialized influencers. It sucks, man.

Like...Russia, China, India, Iran, Isreal, UK, and a handful of others that I can't remember.

It's happening everywhere and all in slightly different ways but it's not JUST the US. I just tend to remember Russia the best because they are the closest to what seems to be happening in the US at a visual level. The old videos of arrests and protests in Russia almost mirror the modern ICE videos. I suspect it will only get worse.

[-] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Or, ya know, make parents take responsibility for their own children and monitor what they are doing online. If you don't want your kids seeing or participating in things online then don't give them unfettered access to smart phones and computers!

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I kind fo agree and kind of don't. I agree in that parents should take accountability for their children. That said, social media has been shown to be addictive and kids are frequently ahead of their parents technologically. One thing that could help is an education campaign that teaches parents how to effectively monitor their kid's online activity. Parents need some help figuring out what tools to use and how to use them I think.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[-] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

Utah is trying. They claim they want to hold websites liable for Utahians who use VPNs to bypass ID checks. I don't think that's going to work, mostly because I have a lot of questions about how that could possible be enforced. But it's funny to think about.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 weeks ago
[-] yoshisaur 20 points 3 weeks ago

I went to the stock market today and did a business

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder how the business industry is going these days?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

People act as if it was a bug and not a feature. This was intended. After people sufficiently make fun of the current solution that everyone knows how easily it is broken, the next step is requiring both ID and face scan and comparing photo on ID with face scan. Congrats, privacy is removed completely. Every poster is now tied with real life identity.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 weeks ago

We should get all of our advice from little kids. They have not yet been bound by knowing what is or isn't possible. The meek shall inherit the earth.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

We should get all of our advice from little kids.

These articles tend to lean on click-baity "One Neat Trick" headlines, while disguising the more practical hit-or-miss reality of facial recognition software. Sometimes you can outsmart the computer. Sometimes it just fouls the system and fails out. Sometimes the system works exactly as intended.

Little kids experiment around the edges of a system until they get bored or frustrated. In the aggregate, they can be very clever just through the number of permutations they try. Individually, your 12-year-old isn't going to Hack The Internet reliably.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Today in: "Just let the parents parent."

It's good to see a reminder that depending on the majority of parents to act in absence of real, tangible regulation is doomed to be a failure.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago
[-] sundray@lemmus.org 15 points 4 weeks ago

Good, good -- teach the children that authority is bullshit. This kind of thing is more effective than book learnin'.

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

I couldn't stop laughing when one of my kids showed me a picture of his 10 year old friend's effort with the texta. We are talking comical magician curly moustache. Roblox verified that account as 18 though and now that account can't talk to his school friends.

[-] violentfart@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Is it legal to “verify” my age to be a minor? Would less of my information be collected?

…not that any of it is accurate anyway.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

Blame to all who made such stupid software and then called it "age check"

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 22 points 3 weeks ago

It's not age check. It's 1984-style government invasion of privacy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no. All that's left now that the age veifications are bypassed are the extensive public surveillance. Better leave that running.

[-] wuffah@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We want your children to be safer online so we forced them to self-identify with biometric data? Isn’t that part of what caused this in the first place?

Privacy, security, and regulation is the answer here, not more surveillance capitalism. But that’s anathema to the business models of every social media company so instead we get this ham-fisted attempt at jamming the square peg of “digital advertising surveillance” into the round hole of “protecting children”. The mechanical action damages everything involved.

This system is specifically and very effectively designed to monitor, analyze, addict, and sell people, and this “solution” just ends up being more engineering to that end. Asking it to selectively age-gate content is like inventing a global network for information transfer and then becoming outraged when it’s used for file sharing. Copy is an intrinsic operation of digital data, and exploitation is an intrinsic operation of social media. We’re asking it to do the opposite of what it’s created to do.

Parents should be in charge of filtering content for their children, and the government should be in charge of using the collective power of the people to regulate companies that exploit them instead of serving them. Asking social media companies to do it is backing the wolf truck up to the chicken coop while the guy hired to protect the chickens tells you “The wolves will protect the chickens from other predators!”

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] posturemaxxing@lemmy.wtf 10 points 4 weeks ago

the SOY gmod method vs the CHAD fake mustache

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

I guess now we must ban pens and markers because children might draw fake mustaches and bypass age verification.

So long humble pen. We will miss you.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

As I understand it, most adult content producers aren't actually interested in having minors using their sites. It seems like the easiest thing to do would be to have them add some "Adult Material" flag in their metadata, and let consumers respond as they wish to that tag - whether that's done through browser settings, router nannyware, or whatever.

Is there a technical reason this isn't what's being pushed for? I'm sure there's lobbying and "optics" reasons for not doing this, but is there any practical reason for not pursuing this, or something like it?

[-] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

We already have multiple solutions for blocking children from websites that parents don't want them to access and the companies providing those situations maintain their own databases of different types of content tagged so that parents can have some control over what is blocked and what is not. This stuff has existed since the 90s it's nothing new. It requires parents taking the initiative though and really when we get down to it this is another, "but think of the children, " sort of situation where they are using child safety as cover for making it easier to collect biometric data of people online.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 04 May 2026
992 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

85043 readers
1830 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS