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Are Democrats feeling the Bern at last?
Imagine if you will - a world where we would have had Bernie instead of Sweet Potato Hitler V1.
Never forget kids: The rich are the true and only enemy.
Hell, I'm still imagining a world where we had Gore instead of Junior.
Two easy ones:
No 9-11. There would have eventually been an attempt somehow, hell, maybe it would have been worse, like a dirty bomb. But the ball wouldn't have been dropped on staying alert. Climate activism. Still think it was far too late even by 2000 to prevent the worst that's coming (which tells you were I think we are now), but at least Gore knew the science and would have tried to change something.
Still would have had our problems, but it's such a different path, it's hard to say what would have still happened.
I have a hard time believing that Gore would have made a difference on preventing 9-11, but I'm sure the response would have been different. Maybe no Patriot Act, maybe no Afghanistan War, almost certainly no Iraq War. That's a big enough difference for me.
Bush was an idiot that blew off reports about Osama bin laden mobilizing. I don't think Gore would have, personally.
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It was safe to vote in order to appease the voters without actually doing anything because they knew the Republicans would shut it down.
If the vote were closer and couldn't survive Democratic unanimity, just enough of the rotating selection would oppose it to keep it from passing while the rest saved face.
It's a bad play I think if that's their plan. It shows that criticizing Israel is fair game, which has pretty much been against everything said in the past. It's an admission that they think that what Israel is doing is wrong. You can't put that back. AIPAC would not be in favor of this. If this is just appeasement, it's at least appeasement that can be pointed at to show what's wrong.
They may think of it like appeasement
But this is only the beginning of the anti-zionist snowball
I desperately hope you're right, but I suspect this is naïvely optimistic.
The Democratic Party has shown time and time again that they are willing to vote in line with the people if and only if their vote doesn't change the outcome.
I'll believe their votes on Israel mean anything when their votes – well – mean anything for the result.
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It's nice, but we need meaningful campaign finance reform. We need to get Israeli money, and all foreign money, as far away from our political campaigns as possible.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I suspect a lot of Dems knew it wouldn't pass and are virtue signaling. Let's see if there's a blue wave in November and if so, whether they still have the backbone to cut off Israel.
This wouldn't be an issue if we just had campaign finance reform.
Virtue signaling is a good start.
Don’t underestimate the value of moving the Overton Window
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If they did this about 2 years ago we wouldn't have Trump.
I guess an eventual response is better than no response. Although for many is this juat a decision to win votes? Like I want representatives that have morals, but I suppose ones that listen to their voters is better than the current situation
I too can never quite shake the feeling that at least sometimes the supposed opposition is just theatre. Especially when they know it won't make any functional difference, they can say "well, gosh darn it, we tried" when in reality they'll always magically never have enough votes to do the right thing.
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If the Ds had enough votes to block passage, magically, just one would vote against.
We need a country to bribe our reps more than Israel does, this is the only way. Oops, I mean donate.
China, you're our only hope.
lol imagine if we achieve the death of US imperialism and the dawn of global communism simply by bribing the politicians more than the capitalists do.
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Imagine if the people of the nation had enough money for food, shelter, and political donations.
We need a country to bribe our reps more than Israel does
It's a circular scheme. Money we spend arming Israel goes to their weapons manufacturers. Their MIC collects a profit, which is milled back into campaign donations to US Congresscritters. Congresscritters take the money and rubber stamp more tax-dollars to Israel, to buy more weapons, to generate more profit, to bribe more of Congress.
China, you’re our only hope.
President Xi, please liberate our people.
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Hey Dems, this is the kind of hings we want. Keep it up. Do actual healthcare and debt reduction next!
Future: Sorry, even though there are 55 Democratic senators now, six of them won't vote for it because of inscrutable reasons and there's just nothing we can do!
And apologists wonder why we don't like the Dem neo-libs.
Just a few years too late.
Best time to cut ties with Israel was 20 years ago.
Second best time is now
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..now? They just did this now? What was the inflection point?
They were probably told to wait until Israel got most of what it wanted and then were allowed to do this to save face. Fuck all democrats who voted yes previously, this will not absolve them. They deserve to rot in the same cesspit with Trump and Netanyahu.
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The inflection point was they knew it's gonna pass anyway, so they used the opportunity to feign alignment with their voters for a change.
they knew it’s gonna pass anyway
Legislation doesn't just pass by magic. There has to be a critical point of majority support. In this case, there wasn't.
The final 47–52 tally disappointed advocates who had hoped to draw more GOP support.
This feels a bit like the Epstein stuff. Liberal politicians recognizing how ugly their primary bids could get and how dangerous the general could be for pro-Israeli candidates going into 2028 and have decided to hedge their bets.
Meanwhile Republicans seem dead set on making this a referendum on the US-Iran War, which their caucus largely supports.
I'm assuming they know it won't pass because of the Republican majority so they are virtue signaling. I can't trust either side.
Call their bluff and give them the majority they need yet secretly hope they don't receive?
Why does your cult always put the burden on the voters and not the party to do what their constituency wants?
If they really want to oppose Israel, ask them to renounce their lobbying and kick them out instead?
"Call their bluff and make them win"
What kind of retarded strategy is this?
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Cool! Now let's do that 2 years ago
If you know popular legislation will fail then it's easier to support it.
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The Democratic base’s shift on Israel was recent and seismic, and the leadership is lagging a bit. They will come around to the new party consensus soon, and the Democratic party will be the anti-Zionist party. They will have to in order to win elections; it is already an 80/20 issue among Democratic voters, and that 80 is only going to grow.
The GOP base is likely to remain more split on the issue for a while. Most of their youngest voters are essentially groypers at this point (whether they self-identify with that label or not). They hate Israel and Jews in general. But the larger portion of Republicans are evangelical Christian Zionists who see Israel as instrumental in their end times prophecy. Trump and GOP leadership is still catering solely to this group, and party leadership could remain locked in this mode for while.
Republicans may become even more Zionist as AIPAC funding and Zionist former Democrats flee the Democratic party to join the other side. Another political realignment in a decade of political realignments.
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The dems are whores for corporate money and this war actually threaten said money
Would have been nice if their line in the sand was genocide but I guess this is still better than the alternative
Bare minimum but a start I guess
Now send iron dome to Gaza and sanctions against Israel
Netanyahu did this. Allowing support for Israel to become a partisan issue in the US will go down as one of the classic blunders.
It's not a partisan issue unfortunately. Sure Democrats are only focusing on slobbering over BB's tip. Republicans are trying to gobble the shaft and balls. But either is inappropriate.
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failed just as planned. i can’t take them ~~seriously~~ never mind i do take them seriously after they rejected the call to stop taking AIPAC money. of course they are not going to stop. they just need to choose the defectors. and shumer is too cowardly to answer for his own demands
75%?
Does this mean the tankies are actually going to vote in the midterms?
Or are they just going to have a harder time coming up with excuses why Democrats are so bad that it's better just to let Republicans hold onto power?
Does this mean the tankies are actually going to vote in the midterms?
No. Since we hold all the cards and the democrats can’t win without us. We’re waiting on every conservative democrat to apologize to us for their support of a genocide before we let the democrats hold office again.
If you really support the democrats you should be groveling for forgiveness in your response. If you refuse, I’ll be bringing that up at the next tankie meeting.
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Too little too late. Anyone that supported Israel and defended their "right to defend themselves" needs to be hung. They're just trying to weasel their way into the left's good graces.
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Schumer (D-Tel Aviv) voted against.
And yet the Dems are leaving him as leader?
I would say mostly, not overwhelmingly.
Hold off the saves act and then do it again after they loose the midterms.
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