The old pope died of cringe when he met Vance so I'd consider this a threat.
Oh yes, world renowned theologian James David Vance foremost expert on theol...wait theology is when you fuck couches right?
i thought his name was jance dance vance
What's wrong Jance Dance? You barely janked the jouch?
Isn't the Pope supposed to be the guy for Catholics, appointed to directly hear God's voice on Earth, and spread it to the masses? And if that's the case, aren't all these faux-Christians disagreeing with him - like Vance - disagreeing with the very God they purport to worship?
Catholics can disagree with the pope on secular matters, the problem here is that the pope is quoting the catechism almost verbatim, and convert-boy is throwing a tantrum because he joined the church based on aesthetics and not any kind of conviction.
A bunch of Protestants think the Pope is the Antichrist, but apparently Vance identifies as Catholic, so yeah, he's defying God. Catholic doctrine also holds that the Pope is infallible when ruling on theology.
The latter is not universal. Several popes have explicitly stated that they are indeed fallible (which would render total infallibility self-contradictory). Also, infallibility is generally limited in certain ways that I won't bother researching in enough depth to put into a concise description. But the pope can't just make up some random shit and have it automatically considered to be the word of God.
Of course, pointing out that someone violates the basic tenets of Catholicism while naming those specific tenets is well within "the pope is right" territory.
The man converted to catholicism then within a few years was beefing with two popes in a row on basic catholicism.
Did they forget to give him the brochure when he converted to Catholicism?
Right? Is he not treading excommunication territory with this shit?
Lay Catholics aren’t supposed to challenge the Pope like that. Even Cardinals wouldn’t get away with saying something so obnoxious.
I've killed a pope before and I'll do it again! - J.D 'Couch Fucker' Vance
JD literally woke up one morning and decided to debate theology with the fucking Vicar of Christ.
INNNNN THIS CORNER, wearing all white and a skull cap, he's the Vicar of Christ, the Bishop of Rome, the SUCCESSOR to the Price of the Apostles, iiiiiiiIIIITS POPE LEO THE FOURTEENTH!!
And in THIS CORNER, wearing a tailored suit and red tie, Couch fucker, white trash cosplayer and world's worst negotiator, John Dilbert Vaaaaaaance!
Look, they already decided they knew science better than scientists, they knew war better than military generals, they knew economy better than economists.
Why did aynone think they would stop at theology?
The utter fucking nerve of these assholes.
I'm not even a christian anymore, Catholic or otherwise. In fact I've long since gone full on athiest.
But even I'M offended by this new level of horseshit by the Trump clown-show.
I am with you. I don't believe in what the Pope stands for but also recognize that he is not only the head of state of a foreign government, but the mouthpiece of a significant part of human tradition. This really is like the "fake news" arguments from Trump's first campaign, i.e., "I don't agree with what they say so I will attack them personally."
Right? I really dislike the catholic church and am an atheist myself, but these morons make the pope look like a reasonable statesman by comparison.
yikes. Said by a converted catholic.
Right! Get a hold of the new guy, here! 🤣
When Vance tells a Pope to be careful, that Pope should be careful. You know, considering Vance's established track record with Popes...
I still find it so fucking funny that this nimrod was the best candidate trumps campaign could find.
Paid for by Peter Thiel.
What does "best" mean in a kakistocracy?
Best, in this case, means Peter Thiel's check cleared.
Also, I'm sure there weren't many candidates for the job, considering Trump tried to get the last guy killed.
If you're not a Catholic, you might not understand how fucked up it is for Vance to stand there and call the Pope wrong about theology.
By definition, the Pope is right about religion. If he changes his mind tomorrow, he was right then and he is right now.
The equivalent would be if I became a Buddhist and then told the current Dalai Lama he was doing it wrong. Or maybe if I became a Hindu and then insisted that, actually, cheeseburgers are fuckin' awesome.
No joke, Vance is like two more dumbass statements away from being excommunicated.
Arguably, there would be decent historic precedent for excommunicating Vance RIGHT NOW.
Shut up, Vance.
The Vatican should be taking threat very seriously. He did kill the last Pope
It is a bit like saying a professor of mathematics with 10+ years of experience in teaching calculus should be careful when talking about calculus.
... from a guy who just heard about calculus for the first time
That's not how being Pope works. I know this, and I'm not even Catholic.
Beefing with the pope should definitely have been on my bingo card for this administration, I feel stupid for not seeing it coming now.
Jelly Donut Vance, the master of reverse reasoning.
"Whatever makes sense"
To be fair, declaring war on the pope is a time honoured Christian tradition.
One of the requirements for being a fascist is being stupid. Vance is no exception to that rule.
Couch Fucker vs The Word of God. I'm not a religious man, but I know who I'd believe.
Jerkface Douche Vance, God is never on the side of those that wield the sword, IE the aggressor. That would be the US and Israel in Iran, you fucking moron.
Sounds like a threat.
Apparently, back in January, a State Department official made a reference to the Avignon Papacy to the Vatican’s chief diplomat.
For those not familiar with the geopolitical history of Europe and the Catholic Church, this was a period in the 1300s where the French monarchy did their level best to basically co-opt and strong arm the church so they could squeeze money out of them, and led to a schism for a time.
Put another way: that is by far the most thinly-veiled direct threat I’ve ever heard anyone make to the Vatican in my life.
That's like lecturing Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking in physics lol
Of the 50 people in that audience, half were shocked by what he said. The other half were trying to remember the lyrics to the Baby Shark song.
At least this time he warned the pope unlike the previous one.
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