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[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago

Isn't the Pope supposed to be the guy for Catholics, appointed to directly hear God's voice on Earth, and spread it to the masses? And if that's the case, aren't all these faux-Christians disagreeing with him - like Vance - disagreeing with the very God they purport to worship?

[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 131 points 1 day ago

Catholics can disagree with the pope on secular matters, the problem here is that the pope is quoting the catechism almost verbatim, and convert-boy is throwing a tantrum because he joined the church based on aesthetics and not any kind of conviction.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

The man converted to catholicism then within a few years was beefing with two popes in a row on basic catholicism.

That is what we in the business call a poser.

[-] Thermite@lemmings.world 2 points 10 hours ago

It just popped into my head that Vance's tie should have poser in block letters going from top to bottom and trump should have loser on his.

Wonder if this could be a browser extension

[-] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 65 points 1 day ago

A bunch of Protestants think the Pope is the Antichrist, but apparently Vance identifies as Catholic, so yeah, he's defying God. Catholic doctrine also holds that the Pope is infallible when ruling on theology.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

The latter is not universal. Several popes have explicitly stated that they are indeed fallible (which would render total infallibility self-contradictory). Also, infallibility is generally limited in certain ways that I won't bother researching in enough depth to put into a concise description. But the pope can't just make up some random shit and have it automatically considered to be the word of God.

Of course, pointing out that someone violates the basic tenets of Catholicism while naming those specific tenets is well within "the pope is right" territory.

[-] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I appreciate the nuanced info. It's pretty tough to find when discussing religion on platforms like this. It helps logical people trapped by corrupted religious beliefs realize that its okay, even encouraged, to keep their core beliefs intact while still being able to condemn those within their religion that work to corrupt the church.

If all you see is church/religion bad, then they'll just dismiss you and move on. And the corrupt version of Christianity or Islam or Judaism or what have you will continue growing

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s not a church to these people. It’s a country club.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Literally any Catholic who criticizes the Pope is a hypocrite because the Pope is meant to be God's representative/mouthpiece on Earth.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

The pope doesn't claim infallability on everything, only specific statements ex cathedra.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago
[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

According to doctrine.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago

The American Catholic leadership are hardcore conservative, with a few exceptions, and working at cross purposes with Christ's mission on earth.

[-] 1D10@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

In my experience American catholics in general tend to be the ones who vote hard right, while saying "I think politics is tearing us apart" and "oh, I don't discuss politics" "I'm not racist, but...". They want the same thing the far righ wants they just don't want to get their hands dirty.

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