TIL that they still made these
The slightly older ones make great Linux tablets. I use mine for comics.
Heck, my surface pro 3 makes a great Linux machine. Still tweaking it but the touchscreen works just fine with Mint, so even an old one could probably do just fine.
I remember when the first Surface released and Gabe from Penny Arcade was like "wtf this is better than iPad for drawing. why aren't they advertising this aspect of it?"
I don't know if that's still true, but I always tucked it in the back of my mind when I was looking for drawing tablets.
As long as you don't mind the webcam not working, which except for the oldest models seemed to be a constant with the Surface tablets.
Edit: i mean in Linux, as these camera modules are near impossible to support.
Lol, just as Apple released their lowest cost laptop ever at $600
And it uses literally the same exact hardware as the iPhone 🤣
I honestly feel that's less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.
Some of the same hardware, yes.
But also - the CPU/GPU in the iPhones are insane.
Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.
I can't wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.
Those single core performance numbers are entirely benchmaxxed and don't reflect real world performance or reality at all
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors ("beats" 7950X and "meets" 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
Not exactly, it's a binned version. 5 GPU cores instead of the 6 on the iPhone. Still, it's pretty impressive for what it's able to do.
Seems you let you bias take over rather than actually knowing why you’re talking about.
Not really sure how big of a difference it makes but isn't the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor? The A18 Pro is also likely a lot of old binned chips that they've been collecting for a year. I wouldn't be surprises if this completely isolated them from the rising memory costs. Apple really lucked out on the timing of their release. Not that the Neo wouldn't have been an amazing value regardless either way.
And if RAM gets cheaper again, it will stay at this pricepoint.
“Due to COVID we are temporarily suspending the trolley service in your train”. Never returned.
“Due to COVID, we have temporarily removed your inflight magazine”. Never returned.
“Due to COVID, we now temporarily only clean your hotel room if you request it”. Still have to request a room clean.
“Due to COVID, the salad bar has been temporarily suspended”. Still no salad bar.
“Due to COVID, you now have to book a slot to go to the tip”. Still have to book a slot.
“Due to COVID, the sleeper train has been temporarily suspended”. Never returned.
These are just the examples I can think of.
Here in Sweden the government recently lowered taxes on groceries so that the stores would lower their prices for customers. lol
And did the stores lower their prices?
Until we kill every billionaire. This turns the gamers
i honestly don't know who these things are for. I've never seen anyone using one in person. why the fuck would you put windows on a tablet
Everyone in the Netflix daredevil universe uses it.
Fisk must be a major shareholder in Microslop.
I have a surface pro 4. I love these machines. You can use it like a tablet, you can use it like a laptop. It's great for drawing and taking notes by hand.
The only problem is Windows, but that's not a big problem for the average person. The price of the new ones is a problem but I think the form factor is awesome.
It's like a better iPad in a way, since you could run full-scale desktop programs on it, and use it like a desktop.
I wouldn't be too surprised if things like surfaces were one of the reasons why Apple seems to be making a push to try and make the iPad functional as a computer on its own.
"Only problem" is quite a stretch. Those devices are borderline unrepairable.
I love my Surface Snapdragon X. Battery life up the wazoo and I use it largely as a thin client to windows and linux systems so it lasts forever.
I did debloat it heavily though.
And someone will probably say why not install Linux on it, to which I say...for everything I use I've yet to find a Linux distro that works without hours of custom efforts. I work 7 days a week and don't have time to dive down rabbit holes every day to fix shit like my mouse, or my bluetooth ear buds, or RDP, or parsec, or nomachine, or wifi.
There was a very weird placement on Supernatural on some episodes with a "tech genius". Very jarring how forced it was.
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i have only ever seen one of these family of devices, a literal decade ago
I saw one around ten years ago. My boss bought it, used it for a week and bought a new mac.
OS was the main issue for him.
I might get hate for this,but Windows 8 was the perfect operating system for this device. As soon as I upgraded to 10, none of the fun touch screen stuff was there anymore and I stopped using it.
I used one in school a couple years ago, and I can't deny it was pretty great for it. I like to handwrite my notes, and any math-heavy assignments are way easier to just handwrite, so I used it so all my notes and homework and textbooks could be saved digitally and automatically get backed up to cloud storage. I still use it occasionally as a super light and portable laptop occasionally, but I use a desktop far more often these days.
I had a Surface Pro 4 when I went to university. I always said if it wasn't for the note taking there was no way I would recommend it. It had all kinds of software issues and eventually it just straight died while I was studying one day. I don't think I've ever had a computer die like that, eventually they just get replaced by being obsolete.
I had one of these about 10 years ago. Pretty nice little things. However, since moving to Linux exclusively 8 years ago, I don't miss them at all. Plus, with all the publicly facing bullshit from Microsoft, it blows my kind that people will still spend money on this. Not an Apple fan either, but you can get a very powerful Mac for the sake money.
Thé surface until 8 included run Linux amazingly. That one thing you have yo give to microslop it know how to make Linux shine. Look for the project surface linux these guys are amazing.
https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface makes most of the features "just work" in mainstream distros on these devices.
In the laptop that can also be a decent tablet sometimes space, the brand still does really well, though most people are probably fine with tablet that can be a decent laptop sometimes. Hopefully mobile linux projects like mobian and postmarketos allow the later idea have more than iOS and Android as viable options soon.
But already cost like $1k. I can't figure why anyone would want one. It's like they took the worst things about a tablet and the worst things about a laptop and put them together.
Do people really buy this trash-teir garbage anymore?
Pricing for surfaces was already illogically high, why not add more fuel to the fire?
I wasnt even aware that Surface hardware was still a thing.
Surprising good for small companies that don’t want to deal with hardware maintenance but are already in the m365 ecosystem.
Updates for drivers, firmware, etc comes right from windows update and not from a 3rd party app like dell/hp/lenovo business-oriented devices do.
I work for an org with ~1700 Surface Laptop 7 ARM deployed. They are actually really nice. Managing them with Intune is a breeze (including BIOS management), and Windows ARM is actually getting 3rd party app support now (Thanks, Apple!)
Yes, yes. Microslop, I know. But we are talking end user computing here.
MS: How many feet do we have because I LOVE SHOOTING THEM!
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