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[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 364 points 1 year ago

"Israel has a right to self-defence, but it has to be done within international law ... cutting water, cutting electricity, cutting food to a mass of civilian people is against international law," said EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell on Tuesday (10 October).

He repeated the view more than once in his press briefing. "The Palestinian people are also suffering," he added.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. This cycle of violence and repression needs to stop.

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[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 208 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The UN and EU consider lots of things Israel does illegal. We just don't do anything about it and they don't care.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

This is true. But it is also because there isn't a much better alternative.

The Palestinians don't have a Nelson Mandela, MLK or Mahatma Gandhi kind of person that the western world can rally around and support.

Like, I'm sitting here at home in Europe, thoroughly disapproving of Israel, while being also fully disgusted by what Hamas did.

And I understand why Palestinians fight. I can understand that they can't be fully pacifist and that they don't have the capability to wage a normal war, so they result to asymmetric warfare.

But if they had just cleanly killed or kidnapped the adults and spared the children, that would have been the minimum to not fully alienate a lot of people who are sympathetic to their cause.

I guess Yasser Arafat was the best they had and it only went downhill after that.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem I have with the "both sides" argument is while I agree we should not approve of Hamas' actions, Israel routinely murders civilians without consequence. We tut and tsk but we still send them basically unlimited aid and approval.

Yes both sides behave badly but one side does so with our explicit support.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Don't forget how Israel sells world-class spyware to despots and dictators, who use it to terrorise journalists and political opponents.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The West called Mandela a terrorist until he won and they killed MLK

So

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[-] Cerbero@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Thing also is that those people were also hated during thier time and also called terrorists. There’s no good options for a leader sadly.

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

The UN condemns Israel as a pastime activity. Nobody in Israel cares what they say at this point.

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[-] supersane@lemmy.ml 109 points 1 year ago

Obviously illegal. Collective punishment is a war crime and makes Israel a monster. Imagine if there was a murderer in your building and the feds blew the entire building up.

[-] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 year ago

Israel is willingly lead by a monster.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

"The only democracy in the Middle East"

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[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel's actions are a direct consequence of what Hamas did," Borrell's spokesman had said in Brussels earlier the same day.

Uhh, I think you meant to say "Hamas' actions are a direct consequence of what Israel has been doing to Gaza"

[-] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You really wouldn't gather this by looking at the media churn. It's pro Israel to with it's foot to the floor. If you dare voice distention, you are labeled to be an anti Semite. This successful tactic has been a go to for years. For Israel to know true peace, they need to dump its current leadership. I won't see this happen in my lifetime.

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[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 1 year ago

Well, no shit. And nothing will be done about it.

Not directed at OP

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

The EU may support Israel, but right now they're calling them out for this bullshit and I'm applauding them for that. Hurting innocent civilians is never a good idea no matter which side of the conflict does it.

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[-] Maddie47@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago

Gaza doesn’t have any oil so nobody will help.

[-] baggins@beehaw.org 42 points 1 year ago

Hasn't this always been the case?

Israel has not been a shining example of virtue over the years. I'm not excusing the disgusting actions by the other side, where they are proved true, as some of the pictures have already been discounted, but this would only make Israel come down harder.

I don't the have an answer, but what ever us happening now is certainly not it.

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[-] erranto@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

So was the blockade. and they did nothing about it . bunch of spineless hypocrites

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[-] pno2nr@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised they haven't used phosphorus on Gaza yet.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are they not sending wepons to Palestinians?

[-] Browning@lemmings.world 17 points 1 year ago

To what end?
This isn't something Palestine can fight their way out of, however many weapons they have.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago
[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Wait! I know what Borrell will do: expel Israel from Eurovision! That will serve them right and start behaving!

I don't expect much more from anything leaded by Borrell. We know him well in Spain.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Stand up to Zionists!

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

"Do unto others as others have done unto you.". -- Israel

That was not the best takeaway, but here we are.

[-] crawley@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Palestine cut off Israel's water and electricity?

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[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No you don't understand, what is Israel supposed to do when Palestine does that?

But don't you wonder why Palestine is doing that in the first place? It's because Israel did that thing before.

But Israel did that thing because Palestine did that other thing

But Palestine had no option but to do that because of what Israel did months before

But Israel had done that because of years of that

But how is that Palestine's problem? They only did that because what else would've they done?

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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I'm going to be real, I doubt they can even muster the will to write a strongly worded letter with the kinds of members who make up the EU.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Blocking neccesities for civiliana like water is a war crime. Encircling enemy state after it lanched offensive to yours is not, otherwise e.g. allies pushing Nazis all the way back to Berlin was also crime.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel claims that Hamas is not a legitimate government and definitely not a state. They claim and control the territory of Gaza and consider Hamas a terrorist organization.

So by their own definition, this is a ~~war crime~~ crime against humanity.

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