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With previous Rexit's like the API debarcle etc. many users were left looking for an alternative, but with decision fatigue and bad UX etc. most did not find the Fediverse a viable option.

What needs to still improve, how can we be ready this time?

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 155 points 1 week ago

we need more hornyposting and leftist infighting

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 73 points 1 week ago
[-] Specter@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Let’s be honest, go to any left wing party and you’ll see most people are dating liberals hahaha

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 31 points 1 week ago

Those are irl, whereas the toxic AF perpetually online among us here (e.g. hexbear and Lemmygrad and lemmy.ml) are likely not dating at all.

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[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Many leftists started out as liberals, it makes sense they’d believe others could also change.

-signed, a vegan married to a butcher, so don’t listen to me lol (at least he’s a leftist)

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My wife started out with tons of republican views, she just didn't vote ever.

Through conversations about the state of things, pointing* out hypocrisy, and validating the feelings her religious family was telling her to suppress, I'm happy to say I've managed to marry a leftist. She didn't even really have the liberal pit-stop many of us take.

I'll take 100,000 leftists married/dating/whatever to 100,000 liberals over 200,000 conservatives any day of the week.

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[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

Hey! U r dumb and also I'm jorking my peanor

[-] birdwing 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I avoid harshly criticising the left, while continuing to do so for liberals (but still being welcoming for the; the wider the antifascist front, the better), and outright rejecting far-right.

Keep in mind that infighting was often initiated by the CIA, in order to undermine the Black Panthers. Likewise we may see such attempts.

i encourage party vanguardists to support anarchists and other free leftists. the stronger the left, the better

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 65 points 1 week ago

Probably more NSFW instances? We barely have one.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think anyone actually wants the baggage that ecosystem comes with. Like, when it's working well it has baggage. And you wouldn't like it when it doesn't run well.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think so as well. Porn is available in abundance. We don't really need it here. What I think could be nice is people who like to write erotic fiction as a hobby and post their original content. Or people discuss erotic computer games. Or like relationship advice and NSFW questions in case some country abolishes sex ed. Maybe talking about piracy, mental issues, loss... all the things that are deemed "not advertiser friendly" on commercial platforms. That'd be something positive. But it's not easy. And it often all gets lumped together under some big NSFW umbrella and 95% of people want to share pron clips anyway. Mostly with zero care for copyright or the creators' consent.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ooh \↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ second all of this. Sex discourse will always be better than just a constant deluge of questionable nudes.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

You hear that people? Go set up a camera and show us your genitals! But also, be hot. Or at least interesting. Maybe learn to juggle as you give a blowjob. That'd be fun to watch! If you can do that, the world needs to see it. So why not put it on Lemmy? For the Fediverse!!!

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[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 40 points 1 week ago

Ready for a bunch of teens coming in and trashing the place? No.

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago

Gatekeeping, nice.

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[-] Barbuzie@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago

As a new user (I started using PieFed 2 months ago), the UX can surely be improved, but I feel like the main issue is relative to how users are supposed to use the fediverse: I still don't have a clue on how the fediverse works and how to use it properly.
And I'm motivated in learning to use it.
But for someone who isn't motivated, it's a huge "no thanks, goodbye"

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think we should just hide all of that complexity and just set defaults for everything that the user can decide to change if they want. You don't have to understand how the Fediverse works to be able to use it. Most people don't understand how email works, they just use it.

BlueSky has 40+ million users, and it's also technically decentralized like the Fediverse.

aka. you can use the eurosky.social or bluesky.social server etc.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago

Can BlueSky really be called decentralized when 99% of it is bluesky.social?

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago

No, that's why I said it's technically decentralized.

They have 40 million users though, they focused on UX first, and will now hopefully not be dicks and actually become decentralized

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[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure what can really be done about that; the fediverse is, by its very nature, pretty complicated. It's at least as complicated as http or email, and those things are widely used but probably not that well understood by the average person.

I think people are accustomed to using things that they barely understand the inner workings of (car, microwave, computer, etc.) during their daily life. So, I guess my question is, to what degree do people need to know "how the fediverse works" in order to use it?

If anything, we probably have to change the way we talk about the fediverse to make it more streamlined for people. For example, instead of suggesting that people "join lemmy", it would be better to send them directly to a specific instance that we would like to see grow.

Then there's the friction of actually joining an instance. Some instances won't let users view content without registering, and some require you to "apply" for registration, pending approval. Both of those things are reasonable and justifiable, but at the same time I think they do create a barrier of entry that we may not want if we are going to try to attract more users.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I find it really simple. I joined a site, I found communities, I posted.

It was honestly no different to using reddit, well without the spam and shitty far right losers.

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[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

It reminds me of this:

image https://lemmy.zip/post/47438646

But yeah making the process of signing up and using the fediverse easier for users will go a long way. As much as I dont like bluesky, one thing they did right over Mastodon is making the sign up process dead easy for end users.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 1 week ago

it's weird that, because once you're in it's basically seamless. it's just that first step of picking a server based on your interests that trips people up, because aren't you supposed to pick interests after you get in? more national instances would probably solve that, i think, so you can just go to your local one.

[-] Foni@piefed.zip 18 points 1 week ago

I have never understood the importance of choosing an instance, especially at the beginning. Sign up for any one, try it for a while and if you need to change later, you can do so without problems.

On sites like mastodon where followers are essential it can be a problem, in lemmy where karma is not even accumulated, changing servers does not make you lose more than the 5 minutes it takes you to do it

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[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 11 points 1 week ago

Welcome to PieFed! I see you've got an account and you know how to post comments. What else do you need help with?

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[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

From a technical standpoint: No.

I'm on probably my dozenth account now. The majority of my jumps are because the instance I'd chosen became unstable, had long and/or frequent outages, or just died and went away completely with no warning.

Even the biggest instance I've ever joined, lemmy.world, choked whenever there's a large exodus from Reddit or a lemmy upgrade or a bug farts in Belgrade.

The instances with fairly open enrollment will likely break under the load. The smaller instances with ridiculous sign-up requirements and/or a need for manual approval of accounts will discourage people from using Lemmy at all.

And because of those technical issues...

New instances will pop-up quickly from determined Redditors, because the stuff that's already around can't keep up. Then those new instances will become the heavy hitters. The ones we have now will be vulnerable to atrophy and becoming insular. The overall Fediverse will be vulnerable to the silo effect, diluting its value to folks, as it will basically be RedFed versus OldFed.

From an end-user standpoint: Also no.

The "culture" would shift practically overnight. I've already seen that happen. When I first got here, people were actually kind to each other. Users stood up for others and disparaged others for being hostile, aggressive, overly negative, etc. Then we had the API-calypse surge. Now those radically kind days are long gone. It happened fast. I tried to keep it up in my own small little corner, but even I don't do as good a job as I should.

While the Fediverse may be "strong" overall, the individual pieces are too fragile to handle a significant Rexit onslaught. If even a small fraction of all Reddit users came to the Fediverse en-masse, this place as we know it would be gone.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah IMO getting popular ruined reddit.

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[-] Disillusionist@piefed.world 24 points 1 week ago

We could certainly keep trying to improve accessibility from a technical standpoint, like trying to make it easier for new accounts to hit the ground running. Basically, focusing on good defaults. I've heard people emphasize things like suggestions and starter packs based on simple interest questions for instance. UX is often heavily influenced by what apps you're using for access however.

To be honest though, when I hear this kind of question, I always end up thinking "quality over quantity". I feel like we need to remind ourselves that bigger doesn't always mean better, particularly online. Particularly when the question is about attracting Redditors. Reddit is a cesspool, and cesspools often attract and breed noxious organisms.

The point is, it might be best to keep focus on raising awareness and promoting what the Fediverse is to those who might be receptive rather than trying to contort ourselves to suit the wants of those to whom the Fediverse's appeal is lost. Do our best to be more accessible from a technical standpoint. Then just put out the welcome, open the door, let those masses yearning to break free come, let the rest be.

An exception to this argument is the objective of furthering the cause of federation itself more broadly, but this is a different concern and a completely different discussion.

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[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

When I switched during the API blackout, the first issue I ran into was just a lack of content. That's definitely been resolved since. I think at this point it just comes down to how well they can pick up on the concept of the fediverse, and picking an instance.

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[-] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Only way there is a mass rexit is if the bot accounts get fed up and leave.

Can't say I'm looking forward to swarms of bot accounts descening on Lemmy

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[-] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, from a technical standpoint I am more prepared as an instance admin compared to Summer 2023. We're running on powerful dedicated hardware after all.

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[-] Mikina@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

I don't want people from Reddit here.

The fact that half of Twatter moved to Bluesky instead of Mastodon is a blessing.

ActivityPub is by design a data harvesting goldmine, the fact that it flies under the radar is the only saving grace.

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[-] VexLogic@feddit.online 12 points 1 week ago

I've been SLOWLY getting into the Fediverse for a little over a year now. My biggest gripe has always been discovery and availability. I feel like there is a lot more effort required to find people/communities I am interested in. Then if/when I do find them they are often not very active.

So yeah I'll say what everyone else is saying that UX needs some work. I used Lemmy for a while last year and just couldn't get used to the interface, I'm not Feddit and like this interface more. But it could use some work on mobile imo.

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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Rexited a long time ago. We must encourage (sensible people) to move to Lemmy and Piefed

[-] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 12 points 1 week ago

Lemmy seems in a great spot. I hope people give it a chance

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

Is reddit blocking VPNs now? I don't use reddit anymore, but sometimes I search something on the web and like it or not, redditors in niche communities have good answers to uncommon questions. Definitely better than can be found on quora or other places.

But it doesn't let me view them, supposedly because I'm using a VPN now...

If that's the case, fuck spez and all corporate sellouts. Reddit used to be a mecca for freedom of association...

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[-] Retail4068@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I mean, no? Are you all going to constantly screech at people for not hating capitalism? The people and their behavior are the problem.

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[-] NetSett@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

User experience.

It is frustratingly bad for people just wanting to sign up. The idea of creating a single account, tied to a single instance that may or may not be federated is a confusing concept when most places online now are centralized. Then you have to choose which instance you sign up to, then depending on the instance you may need to go through an application or some other hoops to finally have a working account.

Then you may later find out your instance is not the community you thought it was, may be un-federated from other communities you had wanted to engage with, or the instance just shuts down one day, you loose your account and have to start all over again. That frustration and confusion is enough to turn away most casual and less techy users.

Also, there are lots of apps to pick from, but never a de facto one. While not necessarily a bad thing (in fact it can be generally good!) it does not help with the issues laid out above.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Let's hope this time there won't be a "boycott is over" moment.

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[-] FE80@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

how can we be ready this time?

I'm here to chew bubblegum and sass noobs; and I'm all outta noobs.

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