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[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 145 points 5 months ago

And here I was thinking these blow-and-go contraptions were self contained. I should have known better.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 95 points 5 months ago

They want to be able to remotely disable vehicles, but in the process have made us vulnerable to all sophisticated actors to do so. Our leaders have their priorities all screwed up.

[-] teft@piefed.social 57 points 5 months ago

Once again proving backdoors are fucking idiotic.

[-] Archr@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Not sure that I would really agree that these are backdoor. Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device. Just a consequence of how they designed them to not be circumvented by the operator.

[-] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago

Why is remote access the intention? Should the device not verify the alchohol % locally and then mechanically allow the car to star or not? What part of that needs any form of remote oversight?

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 15 points 5 months ago

Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device

Uhhh nope, there's no reason for a remote connection.

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[-] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 10 points 5 months ago

It makes sense - a self-contained device can be circumvented. A connected solution is much, much harder to fool

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Please explain further because I do not believe that.

[-] prole 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Someone knowledgeable enough could tamper with the local equipment to get it to give false negatives, or always pass regardless of blood alcohol content. If it doesn't phone home, the company (or the court) doesn't know it's been tampered with.

This is all theoretical, I know nothing about this tech.

[-] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

It could phone home regularly without the ability to receive command to disable the car. Sounds like lazy enforcement.

[-] teft@piefed.social 9 points 5 months ago

I agree with you in principle but you could just have the person show up once a week for tamper checking. Those interlock devices are punishment for DUI/DWI so making the user show up once a week wouldn’t be too harsh, imo.

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[-] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago

If somebody is good enough to tamper with the part that checks for BAC, why not also tamper with the part that phones home? Would they even need to?

[-] Archr@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The device doesn't just phone home while driving. It does it constantly. It's likely that any tampering would alert the vendor and by proxy the court.

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[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 69 points 5 months ago

This is a great story to illuminate the large number of problems that could be addressed by decent public transit, better options for walking and biking, etc.

[-] HertzDentalBar 67 points 5 months ago

Boo for the cyber attack but fuck people who drive drunk repeatedly to the point of needing an interlock device. Maybe don't drink and drive you fucking sack of shit.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago

Fuck the lock, ban them from driving. Inexcusable.

[-] iSeth@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win.

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[-] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 13 points 4 months ago

Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries.

So is a proper driver's ed before giving even a learner's permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers

[-] Joelk111@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license.

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[-] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago

Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format

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[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Not-so hot take: the underlying issue is lack of public transportation.

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[-] darkkite@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

you only need to get caught once for the lock

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I know someone that did it once and having to have one of these as a result. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.

[-] HertzDentalBar 19 points 5 months ago

Nope, shouldn't of done it once. Pretty easy to not drink and drive.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I too have never had a time sensitive emergency

[-] _g_be@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

What kind of emergency is more important than the lives of people that might be killed by a drunk driver's mistake? And how is it impossible to find an alternative solution?

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

“I know someone who only did a murder once and they locked them right up. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.”

Replace murder with any crime.

If you don’t want to face the consequences, don’t do the action that begets the consequences.

TLDR: don’t fuck around if you don’t wanna find out.

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Nice straw man. Murder != drunk driving.

[-] quiltstimuli@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago

Killing someone with your car = murder Fuck drink drivers!

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[-] mech@feddit.org 7 points 4 months ago

Fun fact: In the US you can get a DUI for sleeping it off in your car, a passenger drinking while you drive (open container laws), or failing a bullshit coordination test graded by a racist cop without them ever checking your blood alcohol.

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[-] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

Having a breathalyzer is letting them off easy, they deserve to lose their license

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[-] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Never knew anyone who had one, but a friend of mine dated a guy who did. He would beg her to breathe into it for him.

[-] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

That's insane but as an alcoholic I can absolutely see someone doing it.

Some are social butterflies who have to be out and about but talk about not learning lessons.

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[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hegseth is gonna be even more angry than ~~born~~ normal when he can't drive from point a to point b because of this.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

That’s why he lives in the base. So he doesn’t have to admit he got his license revoked.

[-] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 6 points 5 months ago

To be fair, I too would be angry had I been born normal.

[-] skulkbane@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Internet connected breathalyzer... May I ask why? If they need periodic recalibrations all of them don't need it right now no?

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I had one disable my car in rush hour traffic in another city on a roadtrip, they had no way to do anything to get me back up and running. I assume this is for those kinds of cases. I was taking up a lane on the interstate with a cop staring at me, trying to hum the little fucker back to life while a tow truck came.

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 15 points 5 months ago

How are these people planning to drive? The cost of fuel is excruciating! If it wasn’t because of Operation Epstein Fury, driving may have been an option.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

A "cyberattack"? Or vibe coded AI slop running as intended?

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Only those cars that needed a breathalyzer for reasons.

Not much of a loss, I'd say.

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

2027 mandates every car have this. Its infuriating.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Per bidens Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, that's going to be every new car starting this year

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago

Not sure how I didn't hear of this already. Apparently it's not necessarily a breathalyzer, but the proposals include a camera facing the driver to monitor them and passive monitoring of the air in the car.

I don't drunk drive and barely even drink, but that's horrifying. I can't believe this went under the radar for me.

More garbage that is going to break and cost thousands of dollars to fix in addition to all the violations of privacy. Cars are already advertising to people. Can you imagine if they put a camera inside the vehicle? Why not invest in public transit? That's a great way to decrease impaired drivers of all stripes as well as help people in general. All this does is funnel more money into auto makers. I am so upset that this is the first I'm hearing of it.

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