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Boo for the cyber attack but fuck people who drive drunk repeatedly to the point of needing an interlock device. Maybe don't drink and drive you fucking sack of shit.
Fuck the lock, ban them from driving. Inexcusable.
Perfect solution. Really needs public transit or walkable cities to work so win-win.
Of course better transit is a better solution, but at least while America is waiting for that, ride-hailing services can help fill a gap. Expensive? I have little sympathy for people who drove drunk on that count.
Driving under the influence is a ban able offence (reckless endangerment) in most countries.
So is a proper driver's ed before giving even a learner's permit. US loves giving a multi ton killing machine to untrained people with impulse control. And teenagers
I agree with you, but the difference is that, in the US, people NEED to be able to drive to function in society. That's why the bar has to be so low to get a license.
I'm sure the lives lost were worth it so that alcoholics and irresponsible people can keep functioning in society. /s
It isn't. Public transit is great. When will it be discovered in America? Who knows.
Comments sections. Where nuance goes to die. All context is flattened and your views must be expressed as black or white lest you get branded as having the wrong opinion.
Amen, Lemmy is in the starting stages of how reddit went my brother. It's inherent to the format
Better nuance dies than innocent bystanders as the drunk driver plows into people.
I don't think alcoholics should be allowed to drive, is that too much to ask?
Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the roads are already dangerous enough as they are.
I understand the dynamics in the US are what they are regarding cars and the lack of public transportation or bicycle infrastructure, but I don't believe the avoidable deaths are a worthy trade off. Change needs to start somewhere, and excusing the deaths for some artificially created issue is not acceptable.
So... Just tell them that it's illegal for them to drive? Kind of like how we tell them that it's illegal to drink and drive but they did that anyway? The point of the lock is that it's for people who are going to ignore the law anyway. Not having a license does not stop somebody from operating a motor vehicle.
Not-so hot take: the underlying issue is lack of public transportation.
100% for most places. However I'll say Ive known alot of folks who will go up into the bush and get blasted only to drive home. I doubt transit would stop that shit.
you only need to get caught once for the lock
It's a shame that it's only when they get caught. There's no excuse for driving drunk.
I can think of plenty, just oh shit we have to get to the hospital please take us to the hospital with a legitimate oh shit we have to get to the hospital tends to override most traffic bullshits. Making the judgment of whether something is a legitimate oh shit we need to get to the hospital is why we have EMTs but like, if the Friday night shift knows you have emergencies when you eat buttered popcorn and there's a new bee movie out they might just expect you to drive yourself (or rather, have a trusted friend and swearing team buddy) because you're half expecting a damn emergency at the bee movie and you've had twelve too many, they know which roads to keep clear of toddlers and the elderly. Damn bees.
Never knew anyone who had one, but a friend of mine dated a guy who did. He would beg her to breathe into it for him.
That's insane but as an alcoholic I can absolutely see someone doing it.
Some are social butterflies who have to be out and about but talk about not learning lessons.
“Not learning lessons” is a pretty mild way to put it.
The only way it isn’t pure evil is if we allow that the alcoholic is not in control of their actions. And if we allow that, they cannot be trusted to drive, or really to even have their freedom. They are 5150, plain and simple.
They're in control but reaching them is something best done by people like them in my experience.
Logic only goes so far, clearly.
I know someone that did it once and having to have one of these as a result. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.
Nope, shouldn't of done it once. Pretty easy to not drink and drive.
I too have never had a time sensitive emergency
What kind of emergency is more important than the lives of people that might be killed by a drunk driver's mistake? And how is it impossible to find an alternative solution?
Where do you guys live? Is it America? Because I kinda feel like in America I'm never surprised that someone drove drunk.
(Especially before Uber.)
What emergency is so time sensitive it's worth killing yourself and a random family for?
The fact that you can't actually think of an emergency is telling.
Still didn't name an emergency worth killing yourself and a random family over
honestly, any emergency that involves hitting you and yours. that's because i don't feel like remembering them. i've been the car that the police pulls over because it's driving erratically and then takes over driving. it's an abstract concept to you. not to me.
Were you drunk or just driving erratically because you were in an emergency?
Also, still didn't name an emergency worth killing yourself and a random family over
because i don't have to tell you about the worst times in my life for your entertainment. read the room you creep
I'm not asking for you to talk about your life, I'm asking you to come up with literally any imaginary event that supports your argument that it's okay to drunk drive under the right circimstamces
wait really you harass someone with ptsd until they blow up, then complain to the mods over it and delete your comment starting the argument? you are quite possibly the biggest pussy on the internet.
let me be EXTRAORDINARILY CLEAR. you treat me like my life is worthless, why should i take any action to preserve yours.
lmao wtf are you on about? What mods? I deleted a comment immediately after posting, it got zero votes and you never even had a chance to reply to it. I don't even remember what it said.
I said people don't have a right to endanger others, the fact you took that as treating you like your life is worthless says a lot
have, not of.
“I know someone who only did a murder once and they locked them right up. Suggest you reset your opinions a bit.”
Replace murder with any crime.
If you don’t want to face the consequences, don’t do the action that begets the consequences.
TLDR: don’t fuck around if you don’t wanna find out.
Fun fact: In the US you can get a DUI for sleeping it off in your car, a passenger drinking while you drive (open container laws), or failing a bullshit coordination test graded by a racist cop without them ever checking your blood alcohol.
I am fully against drinking and driving, but there is definitely some bullshit out there like getting locked up for sleeping it off in your car. I've read plenty of stories about people getting arrested for merely approaching their car while drunk, and that shit gets me paranoid. I live in a place where I park on a busy street, and there have been times that I am having some drinks at home and I'm like "shit I gotta go get this thing from my car". The fact that I can get arrested while going to get my backpack or whatever from my car because I have keys in my pocket and therefore have "intent to operate a vehicle under in influence" doesn't sit well with me. Go find actual drunk drivers. I swear half the shit cops do is making up crimes because they can't meet their quotas.
Also a fun fact: you could also just not drink and drive or allow others to drink in your car.
Nice straw man. Murder != drunk driving.
Killing someone with your car = murder Fuck drink drivers!
sure its not the same, but it gets really close, really fast
Having a breathalyzer is letting them off easy, they deserve to lose their license
They lost their license for 2 years. The equipment was required to get it back.
Okay, seems reasonable, why should I reset my opinion?
You mean he got caught once.