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At a certain point of EV adoption, selling gas won’t be a very profitable business, because fewer and fewer cars will need it. But there will still be some cars that need gas, that final, say, 30% of ICE cars that are still on the road. But if all or most gas stations shut down at roughly the same time, because they operate under the same business conditions, then those last few ICE drivers will be pretty out of luck, no?

To be clear, this is not an argument that we shouldn’t electrify and decarbonize as fast as possible. I’m more interested in the logistics of managing that transition. And I’m sure that gas stations are not the only case of this phenomenon.

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[-] False@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago

Selling gas is already not profitable. They typically sell it at slightly above cost. The real money maker is the convenience store attached.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

Costco sells gas at a loss.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

And even then the average person with a Costco credit card is waiting in line to save $3 per 10 gallons of gas. So a typical gas station might be netting less than $5 per tank.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Way less than $5 per tank, more like 5¢/gallon at an average gas station. They make 70¢ off me filling my tank.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

But the credit card is an extra 5% on gas. Most other cars might do 3% on gas so that might only be netting 2% or an extra 10 cents off per gallon.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 11 points 2 weeks ago

And this has been the case since the early 70's

[-] Elting@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That’s true but the business model is built around the quick fill up. Incentives will change when people have to spend an hour at their stop. Also a majority of people will not be driving far enough from their house to need it. I think convenience stores will stick around except the ones that operate off highways. Those ones will have to change into what high way rest stops are. It would also be possible just to install chargers at existing rest stops.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, downtown there are tons of gas-station brands that are just convenience stores. Surely many gas stations will offer electric charging but since most people will be charging at home the total number of gas stations will surely drop. Some will turn into convenience stores and some will just shut down.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

They won't all close at the same time. They don't operate under the same business conditions.

They operate under very similar business conditions, and any small difference will dictate which one will close first.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Same thing that happened to horse stables

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt gas stations will make very appealing AirBnBs

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Around me they’re turning into mediocre bbq joints and cbd stores.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

They could make for an alright brewery. Sure, it wouldn't be the prettiest, but a pre-built covered outdoor seating area is hard to come by. The entirior would need a lot of work though.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

Rented out as housing to the youngest generation for exorbitant prices?

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The WaWa gas station near me has more charging stations than gas pumps, and they are always full of cars charging.

And of course they sell beer and diet coke a cigarettes, coffee, snacks. The gas is just to get people in the door, and charging takes longer, I'm sure they'll be fine.

[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

The smart ones

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Most likely fuel stations will retreat to outside of city borders, and obviously a lot being shut down and even more people being laid off along the way. It'll happen slowly but there'll be three or four local ones suddenly disappearing practically overnight, the last few being the ones clinging on for dear life due to having no better options until the inevitable closure.

[-] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Predominantly in Texas, Buc-ees is nominally a chain of gasoline stations but they're known for the stores attached to the station, selling all manner of kitsch but also fast food. Ok, they're also known for having 100+ pumps at each location. But that's important because it means they've always been located at the periphery of city boundaries, on huge lots, usually on the highways into or out of town.

When the gasoline business dries up, Buc-ees still has other business interests to keep them going in the road travel market, and they have real estate along major corridors that could be redeveloped. One option is to invite businesses that occupy motorist's time while parked charging their electric cars, like wayside attractions (besides Buc-ees itself, obviously). Another would be to fully entrench themselves: develop a hotel so that visiting business people always stop at the Buc-ees before leaving.

So while neighborhood fuel stations would see a slow demise, Buc-ees can turn their fuel locations into new cash cows. This is why diversification is so important.

[-] ptc075@feddit.online 9 points 2 weeks ago

The gas stations around me are displacing fast food. If you need food for fast & cheap, you go to a gas station. I have a feeling this is intentional, they're trying to secure a new business model for when/if we stop using gasoline.

[-] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 5 points 2 weeks ago

In many country, relatively few shop can be open 24/7 and gaz stations are one of them, so selling high margin groceries and boose helps a lot.

But realistically, people will need loading stations for electric car, and if the load time is 30minutes, you need a coffee shop to have people waiting

[-] Griffus@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Alcohol at petrol stations dreamy Scandinavian drooling

[-] Cevilia 9 points 2 weeks ago

They'll be replaced with rapid charging stations.

This is already happening. Not too far from where I live, right on a main road, a BP station closed down late last year and they're in the process of replacing it with a 20-bay BP Pulse rapid charging station with an attached store and café.

They're going to make a fucking killing. And not just because they charge almost £1 per kWh.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Some can be converted to EV chargers. It’s considered contaminated ground, so the options are limited without expensive remediation. Depending on the economic situation they may just be abandoned.

They won’t all shut down at once. The ICE cars won’t all turn off at once; they’ll fade.

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 weeks ago

Here they pay a hefty bond to put in the tanks, it's cheaper to remediate the site and get the bond back

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[-] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

There are still a few stations without that, but it has been the norm for new or remodled stations for decades in the us.

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

There have always been fuel stations that get shut down and you see them around town already either abandoned, repurposed (often hand car washes) or demolished and built over.

As these gradually shut down in the future, I wonder if some could just go straight to becoming commercial charger stations. Or if anyone can think of a better use for a large outdoor covered parking area + large underground storage tank + small convenience store.

[-] Griffus@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In Norway, the same petrol stations are still here, but with charging stations as well. So even if there are new places with solely electric charging next to Ikea or fast food shops, the regular petrol stations run as they always have.

Edit to add that some stations have transitioned to unmanned stations where you stop, tap your card and fill. Forgot that as I don't drive unless I rent a car for special needs.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

one will close - but everyone will go to the other 3 on the intersection thus saving them for a few years. Then another.... and soon the one across town closing helps those left.

the average car is 12 years old so there is a lot of life left in gas stations even after all new cars are ev. once you have a station a lot of the costs are sunk costs so you won't close just because demand drops a little. Chains will build less as the numbers stop working but they will build in places for a while while closing other locations.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

They'll be closed and turned into bistros like the ones in my city have been. Actually pretty cool to go dine at, and be outside and sheltered, what with the steel canopy where the pumps were..

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

They will close. If you look at how many gas stations there are you’ll see that they are everywhere. I was driving through Iowa and saw an intersection that had 6 gas stations.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 weeks ago

Same thing that happened to them before - when they were Service Stations.

[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago

I suppose we could also see in the future more cars that can swap their battery in charging stations.

IMO that's the more long term use of these stations. Instead of buying gas you would swap for new batteries.

Gas stations are often well placed for refuelling so might as well repurpose them to do that but for electric cars.

Electric scooters with swappable batteries work super well in urban areas. I'm convinced once this tech is deployed on most cars it will trivialise long trips in electric cars.

This and electrified highways would be amazing.

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

we could also see in the future more cars that can swap their battery in charging stations.

I know they have been demoing this tech in China, but if you have at home charging a major advantage of electric vehicles is that you don't need worry about refuling during normal usage. So I think battery-swap technology is going to be limited to long distance trips (which are kind of only a major thing in the US & China due to the way both isolate their workers from their homes to prevent them from organizing).

I was going to say if people are comfortable renting the battery in their car, they might as well be comfortable renting a space in a larger vehicle such as a train, but I think Americans do regularly rent their cars (or at least only pay interest on the loans they take out to purchase the cars), so maybe it's not so crazy, but I personally wouldn't let anyone swap the battery in the phone or laptop for one that is likely less well taken care of.

electrified highways would be amazing.

We already have those: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_electrification

Tyres are a major source of microplastics that doesn't stop when they go electric: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5664766/

Electric scooters with swappable batteries work super well in urban areas.

This sounds cool though

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Around where I live gas stations in the traditional sense are getting rare. Most are just pumps and one or several pay stations. You drive up, scan your card or phone, select the product and the pump number. The pump activates and you can fill up. If you want you can go back to the pay station and ask for a receipt if you'd like.

The few manned pumps that still exist are often something else with a gas station attached. Like a large car wash, sandwich shop or convenience store. Especially the large convenience stores are useful, because it's already a good destination people go to regularly. And one of the few places that have LPG, since those normally are required to be manned. Not that many people still drive LPG, given what a pain in the butt that is, but still.

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