Subscription-based. AI-focused.
Lol. No thanks.
Subscription-based. AI-focused.
Lol. No thanks.
Yeah, you don't get to say no thanks. Your boss will still buy Windows 12. The corporate world will still steal your soul. The world of politics will still be corrupt. And Tupac Shakur will still continue to be the CEO of Burger King.
Sounds like a huge sack of shit
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Excellent. Finally the cycle of alternating good and bad versions of Windows will be broken. It'll just be bad versions from here on out.
Not only that, but increasingly worse versions, apparently.
Which entry-level Linux distribution do you recommend?
Linux Mint, for sure.
If you've got a geeky power user strain in you, try Pop_OS! with their new COSMIC desktop. The blend of traditional window manager and tiling is an absolute delight. But if you're just trying to stay in your comfort zone as you explore the unfamiliar waters of Linux, I heartily recommend Linux Mint.
I've installed Mint on my own gaming desktop, and it's invariably what I install for customers who can't afford a PC upgrade to deal with Microslop's Windows 11 bullshit. They all do fine on it, no one even appreciates the difference from Windows except that they all recognize their old hardware is suddenly much snappier than it was. And as for Pop_OS! COSMIC, I'm running that on the laptop from which I'm typing this comment now. I like them both, but Linux Mint is definitely more battle-tested.
Ubuntu's GNOME layout isn't really for me, but if you're looking for something that's...I don't know, a little Mac-ier than Windows-y, then Ubuntu isn't a bad way to go. I tried Kubuntu (that's Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME) recently and I had a lot of trouble with it for some reason so I just fell back on Linux Mint (which is how it became my desktop computer's OS).
Don't over-think it. The joy of live ISOs is that you can put them on USB disks and try various interfaces out. At the end of the day though, it's like human DNA...99% the same product under the hood, and you can typically change things around after the fact.
Actually, I have a good example of that: I put Linux Mint XFCE on my grandma's machine because it was especially under-powered. XFCE is just about the lightestweight traditional desktop environment around. I was worried Linux Mint's typical Cinnamon environment might be a little heavier and therefore leaving some performance on the table. Well, I spent hours trying to troubleshoot why I couldn't use RustDesk to remotely connect to her computer for support, and it finally occurred to me that XFCE might be the problem. I didn't have to reinstall the entire OS! I just installed the Cinnamon package (one single line of a command in the terminal), then I logged out, chose Cinnamon on the login screen, logged back in under this different desktop environment, and was able to use RustDesk successfully! No fuss, no muss. I'm not going to say you won't have occasional headaches with Linux but you tell me what comparable options I have when Windows 11's heavy fucker of an interface with a taskbar I can't move around the screen is ruining my day, or macOS replaces a tried and true GUI aesthetic with a batshit broken liquid glass one? I certainly can't swap in the older GUIs I liked, but in Linux, it's totally an option, like changing the exhaust on a car or whatever.
Have fun :)
Fedora
So when they said "windows 10 will be the last windows", they were kinda right. Just not the way the imagined...
Windows 12? Well, I'm using Debian 13. 13 is a bigger number than 12; therefore, Debian is better than Windows.
For all the people on here quick to mock others for being gullible enough to fall for AI-generated slop, this is embarrassing.
Let me guess? The AI usage is going to stick its hand in your pocket for usage credits. Remembering that AI is currently massively unprofitable, at some point they're going to try to make money off it. Ironically I don't think they've considered that any supposed savings they make in getting rid of employees will get eaten up in energy and compute costs by AI companies. The business case for this has never made any sense.
AI is currently massively unprofitable, at some point they’re going to try to make money off it.
They need to make people dependent upon it first, then do the rug pull, and the dependent people will have no choice but to pay.
They're still stuck on that first step, though. Very few people are adopting it to a level where they'll depend on it. Even the ones who do mess around with it are mostly just doing so casually and wouldn't really miss it if it went away.
"Fully modular" as 'It can run on a toaster" or as "For access to the file manager, subscribe to premium"?
just move to Linux
Full functionality is said to require a dedicated NPU with at least 40 TOPS of computing power.
Because hardware is getting cheaper by the day, especially RAM and SSDs, so I should be happy I get to rent a reviled, unwanted, AI-crammed OS from Microslop to put on my not-at-all expensive new machine I have to buy just to run it, that will package all my data up and send it home on the regular, via bandwidth I also pay for, to use it to train their AI for free, along with every other byte of private data they're stealing around the world as fast as they can get their hands on it. But wait, I'm not happy enough! Because then Microslop also gets to sell that same private, personally-generated data along with geolocation and wifi triangulation and every other privacy-obliterating feature they can cram in with it to advertisers for ad targeting wherever I go, as well as to my own hostile government as surveillance should I happen to be brown, not cis-het, and/or suspected of engaging in thoughtcrime. AND there's even a bonus! My subscription fees, as well as my data sold every which way they can flog it to others of the Epstein class, will very likely fund Microslop's direct involvement in genocide, just as it has done in Gaza and elsewhere. Win/win all around!
Yeah, no. Shitty company, shitty product, enshittifying the world one PC at a time. Fuck that.

Hey people are already leaving the OS for Linux, theres no need to advertise for Linux even more.
Subscription based lol. I think linux have enough free tools to support basic office work and retail stuff, so majority of work pc can just switch to linux. Hope m$ get fucked.
Absofuckinglutely not.
And I say this as a dedicated Windows user who spent a year on Ubuntu Linux a decade ago and hated it. Windows does this, and sign me up for penguin lessons.
These AI features won’t come cheaply, with Windows 12 set to debut a new hardware requirement just as its predecessor did with the TPM 2.0 requirement. This time around, a dedicated NPU would be required, a specialized processor designed to handle AI tasks.
This is so dumb if true. First they force HW upgrades because of TPM 2.0 and now, on the very next product they force yet another one for many due to NPU?
You can see they have long term vision...
Lol so force gamers and home users off the OS and go full b2b is the play? I mean we all saw it coming but that does not bode well for us serfs.
Oh quite the opposite. A mass adoption of GNU+Linux OSes would be great for consumers / non business users.

But the real question is, will it run the calculator app?
The calculator app is now a link to Copilot. You can ask it in natural language to multiply 2 by 3 and it will tell you "West Dakota".
I had not really considered going full-time Linux until now. If they attempt to force that unto me, it will be the end of Microsoft for my household. I've successfully been AT&T free for almost 2 decades. There are a few other companies like that which will never earn another direct dollar from me. Microslop may be next.
This is going to cement their status as the most dominant software company for a decade, or a crash so catastrophic entire economics semesters will be dedicated to its lessons.
Even Windows 11 looks better than this shit.
continuing to up the hardware requirements and pricing people out of the market to satisfy features nobody cares about. brilliant strategy.
I’m skeptical about this seeing as there are also articles pointing out that this is fake news.
Businesses will buy this.
Hell, they'll love it. Decision makers will jump on an "AI OS" faster than you can blink.
Some say businesses don't like extra costs, but that's not been my experience when it comes to Microsoft products and other software subscriptions.
...And that's what MS wants.
They couldn't care less about home users. They don't make them any money, not in the short term. MS wants business buyers sucked in, yesterday.
Did they accidentally post this a month early for April fools? Cuz… holy hell what a choice.
If anyone is wondering, it’s literally easier to install and use Linux than windows 11 already. I can’t imagine how much worse this will make it.
“Surely they can’t be THAT stupid and double down on this disaster?”
And then I read this 🤣
Hahahahaha, get fucked Microslop
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