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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by narwhal@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I see a lot of people, including friends and family, sharing URLs rife with tracking parameters.

I feel alone in making sure that I'm sharing the cleanest possible URLs to others. For example, checking if the URLs are shortened to hide plenty of tracking params.

Just need to vent, thanks for reading.

Edit: adding some context for future references.

By using url tracking params, tech companies can track who shares the content and who clicks on that specific shared urls. A simple but effective tracking method.

Try sharing Instagram post or YouTube video from the apps.

Instagram adds 'igshid=' . YouTube adds 'si='.

If you share the same IG or YouTube content from different accounts. The 'igshid', 'si' value will be different.

This can be used to tag who shares it, and who clicks on that specific url param value.

TikTok hides a ton of such params behind shortened url. Try expanding tiktok shared urls.

If you use android, use this app to expand, analyze and clean up urls https://github.com/TrianguloY/UrlChecker

If you use Firefox (you should), install ublock origin and add this url tracking filter maintained by adguard: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/FiltersRegistry/master/filters/filter_17_TrackParam/filter.txt

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[-] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thankfully uBlock Origin removes those parameters for us. The default filters include a whole bunch of removeparam filters; e.g. privacy.txt See also removeparam.

Maybe you could help your friends and family install Firefox and/or uBlock Origin? Every little bit helps :)

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To be honest 99% of people, certainly including me, probably don't recognize tracking elements in a URL unless they're like affiliate links.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 13 points 11 months ago

If people were really good at removing that info, they'd probably create a unique hash including all that data that we wouldn't be able to edit.

[-] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

I mean, I've seen companies start shortening links with the tracking info inside it. Amazon and Spotify are ones I see frequently

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[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago

Pretty much all junk which isn't human readable is tracking info

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[-] narwhal@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I'm aware that with most privacy issues, a lot of people have limited understanding about it. Hell, I'm probably ignorant on many other privacy issues outside of this topic.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 42 points 11 months ago

Phones and chrome are designed to prevent people from noticing that they're being tracked and helping big tech track others

[-] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 29 points 11 months ago

Agreed. Recently youtube started adding tracking parameters (?si=) to their share links. I always clean them up.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 27 points 11 months ago

This would be a good feature add to Lemmy. Clean pre-post.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

People barely know what a browser is, you cant expect them to know what an url is, let alone what clearing it is

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

People generally don't care (I myself am not at the level of this community). It also involves enough technical know-how that most people won't care. It's like asking people to use a CLI, not going to happen. I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few people who still C&P URLs to share, most people hit a "Share" button.

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[-] narwhal@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

It's not just browser though, sharing links from apps also generate these URLs. A lot of people then share these links through chat apps.

I do realize that most people are not aware of it, that's why I said this is more of a rant. Just want to vent to fellow privacy minded people.

[-] cupcakezealot 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[-] variants@possumpat.io 19 points 11 months ago

Yeah I always mention it when people send a link with all the extra stuff, how you can usually delete everything past the question mark

[-] narwhal@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

Some apps are hiding it behind shortened URLs. So it looks clean, but if you expand it, then oh boy.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah I hate that I never trusted shortened urls

[-] CCPIsBased@thelemmy.club 16 points 11 months ago

I wish websites would clean their URLs

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I thought I was alone in my windmill-tilting on this one! Nice to see there are others who clean URLs of unnecessary querystring parameters

[-] Saff@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Interesting, I never really thought about this before. I wonder if there’s a clipboard manager that does this automatically?

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

There is a Firefox plugin which I believe is called CleanURLs.

it's interesting that you mention the shorturls OP... I'm almost positive as of today that those links you can share that are like amazon.com/a/ab3cd4 are customized tracking links.

Problem is, if you paste it in your browser from the app, it doesn't go back to the original URL. You have to search the product again and customize the color, number, etc, and then strip tracking again from the url.

Most people just want to send a friend a link of the thing they think they'll like.

[-] narwhal@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For android, I use this: https://github.com/TrianguloY/UrlChecker

For firefox, I use ublock origin and add then anti url tracking list. Adguard maintains such a list. I forgot the exact name though.

Edit: it's this one https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/FiltersRegistry/master/filters/filter_17_TrackParam/filter.txt

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I do this because I hate super long URL's, but is this actually a problem for privacy? Does it not actually fuck with the tracking because now two separate people have got the same tracking Params? (Genuine question).

[-] DrM@feddit.de 29 points 11 months ago

Nope. It's a nightmare. The ad company now knows that you are friends or family

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But what If you send it via social media like Lemmy or Reddit?

[-] narwhal@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Then they know who's the poster (you), they can know your username if they want to. A lot of people use the same username in many places, so unless you use different usernames in different social media, it's still valuable data.

If not that, seeing how the content spreads through social media and analyzing the reach is interesting data by itself.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Then they know that person follows you

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

The OCD part of me really wants to clean up those URLs simply because the link becomes a massive novella of garbage that's harder to read than Yu-Gi-Oh card text.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

On Android, LinkSheet supports cleaning URLs. It's an awesome tool in general.

[-] the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Urlcheck foss app also do very good work

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[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 12 points 11 months ago

I try to do it. Mainly i see a lot of ?utm_source shit and kill it.

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Kind of annoying they only do it in Safari in private mode, and not as a default.

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[-] wilberfan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

A personal gripe of mine. I can't get any of my friends/family to care...

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[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I have no idea how to clean a URL and honestly I'm not interested in cleaning every URL I send.

[-] Pectin8747@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

At least you're honest about your ignorance

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[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Quick rule: Just remove all of the garbage after a "?" except what is directly following a "search=" or "query=" parameter.

[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah I do that by default, if the URL is too long with random stuff at the end I remove what I can without breaking the link

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[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago
[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I care about this also. I used to clean them up, but what I've started doing is adding and replacing parts of the share id. And I'll usually put something stupid in there like "booger", just to screw up their tracking data.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I sometimes leave some IDs in that don't change and seem to track me as a person so the tracking mixes them up with me if the trackers don't discard it on client change.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

If anything that just makes it easier to map your social circle. Probably even intentional to see who you share links with.

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[-] badlotus@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Brave includes “copy clean link” in the context menu in the desktop version.

[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago
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