OK, so first of all, what they are doing in this picture is checking if the cows are pregnant. I have never seen someone being table to impregnate cows by sticking their arm up their ass.

Second thing you should remember: In nature the bull literally does not fucking care. If a cow is ovulating (bulls and cows are able to detect when this is the case), he will literally try to fuck the specific cow the entire fucking day. IRS not like he fucks the cow once and then its done, we are talking about the bull following the cow the whole day and continuously (trying to) fucking her.

I would argue, that a single small metal rod is less tiring than a horny bull trying to fuck you the whole day.

And before people are going to throw shit at me: No, this does not mean, that industrial grade factory farming is in any form or shape a good system. I have seen it all and I know how incredibly bad it can be. However, I Am not a fan of throwing the word rape (even if the exact word has not been used here) around, simply because you could somewhat classify the natural process as rape too.

I mean... it is.

Looking at this directly from a viewpoint of what is "natural" for the human body, being vegan is unnatural.

Being an omnivore is. Our entire digestive system is such that the natural diet of the human body is an omnivorous one and it does best when treated as such. And that means a small amount of animal fats, proteins, trace minerals, and amino acids in one's diet.

I'm not going to argue morals or ethics, because that wasn't what the post was about. It's what's about what is "natural."

Yes, you may disagree with me. Strenuously, and just know that I respect you and hope that you and yours have an excellent day wherever you happen to be on this flaming cannonball of a planet we call home.

I don't care anymore. If yall think animals are people then yall can be animals.

Discussions like this usually get heated fast. At the end of the day, people make food choices for different ethical, cultural, and practical reasons — it’s probably more productive to talk about systems and standards than attack each other.

Make vegan food free if you care about animals so much.

Life eats life. I'm not going to try to convince a lion to not eat a gazelle, and I'm not going to try and convince a human not to eat the thing its been hunting and eating for 10 thousand years.

I agree that factory farming is terrible. If we are going to eat an animal, its best if we raise it and kill it ourself in the quickest and most painless way possible, to ensure happiness and health during its life and mitigate as much suffering. It also forces us to face the act of death itself, and hopefully be grateful of the animal for the meals it provides.

All things die. As someone who went through "dying", I can say with some confidence that dying sucks, and you will suffer when you go through it. Whether its being shot, stabbed, strangled, poisoned, or dying of the complications of old age. You are going to suffer unless you're doped to high heaven on morphine or something similar.

Are vegans going about using opioids to euthanize factory farmed cows in mass? No? Then I guess they're going to suffer, and I'm not letting them suffer in vain.

THAT would be unethical.

/s

I came across a vidya on the interwebs many hears ago where a monkey grabbed a frog and used it as a fleshlight... Ever since then Ive had a different relationship with the word "unnatural". The truth is that shoving your arm up a cows ass and eating vegan fervantly and being a hater ass bitch are all perfect examples of natural human behaviour.....and im well past thinking theyre not.

Mr.Vegan you realize that cows don't have a cloaca right?

I tried it for 8 years and my body started to fall to pieces in rather remarkable ways