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I don’t argue or “debate” online. Most online back-and-forth feels pointless and often intentionally inflammatory or in bad faith. I read all the replies I receive, but I rarely respond.

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[-] SnotFlickerman 120 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Block any and all advertising at all times.

Never take off your pirate hat because you never know when you'll need it again.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

I genuinely can't figure out why there are so many people who are happy to let adverts fill their day. Or at the very least, don't really notice it.

I had a shit fit today because I worked out that the Lidl app won't let me use its payment system if I turn off notifications, which I did because Herr Lidl dared to send me an advert for whatever shit he's selling this week - as a fucking notification! That's one advert. I got the hump over one advert.

But there are vast swathes of people who just don't seem to care how clogged their browsing experience is.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago

Assume someday someone will find your account or identity.

[-] mystrawberrymind@piefed.ca 49 points 1 week ago

I just treat others how I want to be treated. Like I’d never say something I wouldn’t say to someone face to face, just because it’s the internet.

[-] SnotFlickerman 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To quote Professor Farnsworth from the recent season of Futurama...

Fortune Teller Bot: Many people believe in a Heaven, yet you do not call them crazy.

Professor Farnsworth: Yes I do! To their faces, and behind their backs I'm even ruder!

[-] AskewLord@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

This backfires a lot because other people don't want to be treated like you do.

[-] THE_World_Wide_Web@lemmy.org 4 points 1 week ago

That's why there's the platinum rule. Treat people as though they're following the golden rule, and thus treat them as they're treating others.

[-] tangible@piefed.social 37 points 1 week ago
[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I like this better than not arguing or debating.

I think you can absolutely have a good argument or debate online, but you have to be doing so in good faith, as does the person you're discussing a topic with.

Trolls of course are not. Learning to not feed them is sometimes difficult. But if you ignore/block them you'll be just fine.

[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Yep. One can definitely have a heated debate about the merits of one process over another, when the outcome is constructive. That's a rational argument.

Trolls on the other hand get "you're not arguing in good faith, this conversation is over" and a block.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

I use Voyager to access Lemmy, which, because it's based on the long-dead Apollo for Reddit, has a feature where it tells you if an account is new. For example, I can see that your account is 4 days old.

It's a really handy shortcut to ascertaining whether someone just holds a different viewpoint to me, or whether they're just a troll account arguing in bad faith on yet another new account, because the previous one got banned. It really is a handy tool that helps provide a little friction between seeing a shitty take and responding to it. It gives me a chance to assess whether it's worth it. And almost always, it's not.

Obviously I'm not suggesting you're a troll.

[-] Asofon@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

This is one of the best and most ignored rules.

[-] weaponG@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Never post photos or other revealing information.

[-] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I was about to chime in "especially don't post nudes", but immediately realised that you don't even need to do that anymore for someone to ruin your life. They only need your face, that's it.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 25 points 1 week ago

I (try to) only interact with positivity.

If someone posts a thread along the lines of "Which album/movie/book/whatever do you hate, even though every one else loves it", I'll scroll on, despite my worst instincts wanting to dive in to see if people hate something I love. I know why people post like that; because engagement on negatvity is always higher. But I feel like every time I engage with content like that, it makes me a little more cynical. I'm done being cynical, the world around me has more than enough already.

If someone pops up in my replies being a dick, I'll just mute, block or ignore them. Life's too short to spend it trying to lower cortisol levels.

Basically, the internet is already negative enough, so I try not to add to it.

[-] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 23 points 1 week ago

I'm never intentionally mean to anyone - not online, not in real life. I'm not overly polite either, and I don't hold back just to spare your feelings, but hurting people is never my goal.

I apply the same rule to people who aren't even in the room. You'll be hard-pressed to catch me talking shit about anyone, even the ones I don't like.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago

I'm almost the exact opposite. I like arguing online. I think it's because of me being gigantic IRL that people don't honestly argue with me. Online, I'm just pixels on a screen and people will call me out on my bullshit.

Different strokes for different folk.

My one rule is to post pictures of Furryosa if she claws me that day.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same, but I'm not gigantic and I also love to "argue" IRL. It's easier IRL too (as a non gigantic guy, ofc 😅), because people can feel your good vibes and friendly disposition and will more comfortably engage even through disagreements.

[-] _OneSoul_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Name checks out and I'm also immediately curious to ask about it 😆

Believing in God and yapping/arguing are big parts of my life. 🤷😅

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Turn off JavaScript by default, and then allow JS through piecemeal using an extension like NoScript. You'd be surprised how much of the internet is still accessible and cleaned up without it, and when you do let JS through, you have a good idea of who's collecting your data and even a good guess as to specifically why.

[-] Asafum@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I try to be civil as best as I can if I choose to respond, even if being insulted.

If I am partaking in a "debate" or argument then my goal is to communicate some idea. Choosing to insult someone or attack them in any way completely defeats the purpose of communicating whatever idea you were trying to get across. Once you start insulting/attacking the other person will get defensive and be 1000x less likely to consider what you were trying to say.

[-] whelk@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 week ago

Support people who are trying, even if they're not there yet. Only give criticism if it's specifically being asked for. Admittedly I mostly apply this to individuals, if it's some big group or company I'm less hesitant to be more harsh and critical though I still try to remain constructive and tactful

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago
  • Be positive
  • Don't let anything negative get to you
  • It's not my duty to convince anyone. If they hold a stupid position, don't try to debate
  • when making conversation, bail once they start treating it as an argument they need to win
  • OPs mom is fair game
[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
  1. It's ok to disagree, and we can agree to disagree and amicably end a conversation.

  2. @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 's hostility towards ads is step 0 to using the internet.

  3. @gibmiser@lemmy.world correctly clocks the fact that accounts should be cycled out and allowed to die regularly.

[-] Maiq@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

VPN is a condom and the internet is that dirty strange. You know you're gonna do it, might as well put a wrapper on it.

[-] sparkles@piefed.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I remember that many people spend more time here than I do, and are more invested in all things internet, and have a somewhat different lens of viewing social interactions.

I also don’t argue back and forth.

I don’t read other people’s arguments.

I have historically allowed people to assume I’m a guy across games and platforms. I don’t give a shit really, unless it is important to the context of the conversation. So I guess I’m somewhat breaking that rule on the fediverse…however it if I get misgendered I don’t correct it.

[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Debates go two ways. If you're not willing to listen to the other person with at least some politeness, you're not debating and it makes it hard to take you seriously.

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

There's this idea going around that if you're not paying for something, then you are the product.

And that's honestly the most psychopathic thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I honestly cannot believe that the people that came up with this idea and monetized it are not currently locked in an asylum somewhere.

So my rule is I don't pay for shit.

I'm not interested in your subscriptions.

I don't care about your products and offerings.

I'm not forking over my money to you for whatever the fuck you're doing.

I'm paying for access to the internet, and I will take what is provided for me, and the rest can go fuck itself.

I don't have social media outside of this, and I will delete this account in a heartbeat if it ever becomes annoying.

And if the internet itself ever reaches the point where simply paying for access does not provide any value to me, I can live without it, and I will put it down and never come back.

If I am the product, then I am worthless. And anybody that obsesses over worthless products is insane.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 1 week ago

Sure ok but your engagement and data is still being sold, even if it were worthless to the buyer.

Besides which, and forgive me for saying so, your buying habits are very, very likely to change in the future. As in maybe you're young and / or broke right now, but sooner or later it will be convenient for you to order something online, at which time I'm sure you will do so.

[-] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Lurk first, then respond. You might find more context in the replies.

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

And to add to that, always read the comments. There could be corrections or other pertinent info there

[-] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

What do you mean you dont argue or "debate" online? Whats that supossed to mean? YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME?!"

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Make a website and link to other websites on it. This is the essence of what the web is.

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Everyone is a liar.

Starting with that premise works well.

[-] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Every debate I tried to engage was poisoned by immature people trying to be cunning instead of bringing productive arguments.

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

That sounds like a constant pain.

[-] Ryoae@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Similar to treat others as they treat you. I can't count how many times, people have decidedly confronted me to be a asshole of a bastard, then are quick to play the victim fiddle soon as it is handed right back at them. Don't be a prick or you'll get the treatment right back. I don't care what you're going through or anything, I'll automatically assume you've got no life going for you to be acting like a bitch to people online.

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm almost the opposite of you. I debate when I can, but I always make sure I argue in good faith. My thought is that even if I'm talking to someone who will never listen, someone who will listen might stumble onto the conversation, and learn something new.

[-] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Remember that 90% of what is said online is said by complete oddballs because nobody will talk to them in real life and they have all the time in the world to post on the Internet.

And the more extreme the view, the more sock puppets these oddballs will have to try to convince you that their fucked up view of the world is actually normal.

IRL I almost never, ever meet people who are obsessed with politics, or people who are extremists like Nazis or communists. Online, they're all over the place and it is not remotely normal. Same goes for chronic pot heads who are vehemently anti-smoking cigarettes. You don't meet that kind of bizarro-world health nuttery offline. Or people who think that people who have outdoor cats are pure evil and should be put in prison.

Extremism like this in general is not at all normal offline. But online it seems like it is. It is not.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Don't be a cunt.

Works IRL as well

[-] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Disconnect completely and detox regularly - preferably for several days or even weeks at a time. It can do wonders for general well-being.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Same as life: Respect yourself. Respect others. Respect property.

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Remember EVERYONE has a voice, everyone contains very dumb people.

[-] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

We should all explore more, not stay stuck in a bubble of 6 or so megacorp websites that take most of the worlds traffic.

The internet is distributed, with billions of websites that are all unique.

Even if it’s difficult to find new websites to look at, then choose a different internet medium such as dark net browsers such as tor and i2p to explore the more privacy respecting web, or on the lighter side, go for geminispace or gopher browsers like Lagrange to explore the un-corporatised early internet style web.

It’s hard to explore when you don’t know where to look.

[-] BeardededSquidward 2 points 1 week ago

I like good faith, polite discussion and debate. Unfortunately, everyone wants to dominate or win and few will make a concession that they might have been wrong, even if you're using the gentlest of hands.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I automatically assume anyone I type at is not a true representation of themselves.

[-] Libb@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Don't waste my time with your hate or anger (and maybe try to stop wasting your own time too?)"

Disagreeing is to be expected and even welcomed in any discussion. I also don't mind people not sharing my views, and I don't even mind people not 'liking' me (why should I? We're not living together). I do mind ad hominem attacks, insults and bad faith arguments, because those are not a discussion anymore: the idea is not to exchange contradictory arguments anymore but to somehow hurt the other person, or to hurt their reputation in the eyes of other users. The moment I realize what's going on, I will block the person doing that. (edit: I will not try to discuss any further, nor try to explain other participants what I just realized, I will simply say "thx, have a nice day", or something like that, and block them once and for all)

They are free to keep on throwing insults (and non-sense) around if that's what they want their online presence to be... exactly like I'm free, literally freed from wasting a second more of my own time reading them. That's not worth it.

Edit: clarifications

[-] baller_w@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

100%

I reply with “yes and”.

If someone tells me I’m an idiot, NEXT! It immediately invalidates their argument.

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