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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world

Adafruit: From Ultimate Driving Machine to Ultimate Rent-Seeking Machine: The BMW Logo Screw Patent.

If you haven’t already heard, BMW’s R&D teams have been busy “innovating.” Unfortunately, they aren’t focusing on the things that actually matter—like stellar engine performance or the legendary driving dynamics that gearheads love. Instead, the C-suite execs decided that the best use of their engineering budget was to design a proprietary security screw specifically intended to prevent BMW drivers from fixing their own cars.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 235 points 2 weeks ago

As soon as the rollout for BMW dealers starts, Chinese toolmakers will churn out compatible bits and screwdrivers. They might even be on the market before the BMW dealers have them in the mail.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 78 points 2 weeks ago

Every dollar store has a variety pack of “security screw” drivers

[-] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

You could almost manufacture it based on this image, granted that's a 1/4" impact bit. All it would take is one bolt being smuggled to their factory or one photograph of a spec sheet.

[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unless im missing something about the design, theres a fairly common bit already on the market that works for this, and Id assume most auto shops already have laying around. My dewalt 50 piece came with one...
Bit looks like ( https://share.google/KHdg0HfO6zC9bab9O)

That one of those 2 pin spanner wrencheswith one on an arm that swings to adjust size, as far as asshole design security screws go, im not too mad at this... accomplishes what it needs to (keeping some rando with a screwdriver in his pocket from just deciding to undo some exposed screws for 'fun', or stealing your car trim) without being so proprietary pwople who arent preppared can't undo it with tools at hand (like the apple Pentalobe screws, and various triangle and tritip Philips variants, really anything with an odd number of contact points is immediatly more of a pita)

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[-] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 99 points 2 weeks ago

Remember kids, every screw is a flathead with an angle grinder

[-] LikeableLime@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago

A dremel with a metal cutting wheel is easier to carry!

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 94 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago

If BMW truly wants to innovate, they should work on fixing their turn signals. They must always be in a state of disrepair, because I rarely see a BMW driver use them....

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 42 points 2 weeks ago

Apparently it's by subscription only...

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

If you can afford a BMW in the first place, you can afford the blinker fluid subscription....

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

BMW turn signals are only decals.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

BMW drivers use blinkers to signal other brands to clear the left lane of the Autobahn for them.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 72 points 2 weeks ago

No biggie. In less than a week we'll have thousands of Chinese Amazon sellers providing these tools to everyone for lose to.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but. If they add enough "special" things you need, that will reduce the number of average people and independent mechanics that will go through the trouble of getting all the "special" tools. Thier goal isn't to stop you. It's to inconvenience enough people so that they won't bother. Which drives more business to thier shops, which in turn makes them more money. And since they are publicly traded, it doesn't even have to actually make them money. Just make the market think it might.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, security screws are security theatre. I had an electronics screw driver set that came with a bunch of the rarer screw bits by default. Actually ran into one I didn't have, then noticed another set with that one (plus other features like the long bendy bit for hard to reach screws) next time I was in the tool section and just bought it.

That said, I won't be needing this one. Driving a BMW would go against the image I'm trying to cultivate of not being an asshole.

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[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost, as if the article answers that question with a resounding "no, that's not going to help either."

But the novelty wears off the moment you consider the physics. Because this head prioritizes branding over utility, neither the bit nor the screw head can withstand the torque of a standard Torx or Hex fastener. The result? Broken bits, stripped screws, and more time spent on what would otherwise be a simple task.

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[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

Until you're halfway through putting in new brake pads and realize you need a specialty bit and now you're stuck without a working car until you get that Amazon package.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

At that point that bolt is getting destructively removed and replaced with a different bolt from the hardware store. Unless they have custom thread pitches, there's going to be an easy replacement.

Edit but I don't own a BMW and never will, my first car was the bargainest basement commuter car and my next one will be too.

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[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago

There is a really, really simple solution to this problem. This might sound crazy, but hear me out. Maybe don't buy their cars? Not like there's a lack of competition.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 19 points 2 weeks ago

The new bimmers are ugly as sin.

I say that as someone who loved his e90

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[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

"specifically intended to prevent BMW drivers from fixing their own cars."

Give me a break.

I hate to break it to people but every manufacturer has a lot of brand specific tools. You need a special socket for Toyota head bolts, 10 point sockets for Honda suspensions, a special multipoint socket for Audis, a special socket for Mercedes lug nuts and it's good to have a 21.5mm for Fords. 5 point security torx are starting to pop up on GMs.

That's just an example of a few sockets, the deeper you go into a car, the higher the possibility that you need a $400 special tool or kit for a specific manufacturer, or even specific year or engine.

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I also highly doubt this screw is made with intention to keep users out of repairing their cars. I guarantee they are dress ups for engine bay/ interior. Having the bmw logo along panel screws looks far more puff than a bunch of torx screws. Every car requires either special tools or special software to work on, NO exceptions in modern vehicles. You cannot truly clear error codes from a Chrysler without a subscription to their gateway and internet access. You can go in limp mode where there's no service and ur 3k autel scanner won't help you without wifi as it cannot connect to the gateway. I don't give a crap about special fasteners that's the name of the game, my gripes are what they do on the computer side of things to lock you out. Right to repair just means you have the right to pay dealer networks thousands a year for the privilege of accessing your own modules on ur car with your scanner. What a fucking racket.

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[-] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Alright, we'll just buy Chinese electric cars instead.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

I'll never buy a car that has subscription features

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Harbor freight will have these weird screwdriver tips in a kit within 12 months.

[-] hildegarde 25 points 1 week ago

Proprietary security screws have existed for a long time. There's a reason they're using their logo, and its not vanity, its a weaponization of trademark law. Recreating the tip would mean recreating a trademark without authorization.

Few reputable companies will be willing to take that risk.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

Aliexpress will have one in about 2 weeks.

And they won't be worried about BMW's lawyers when they do it.

[-] nuxi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Sega tried this back in the 90s and already lost in court. The court ruled that by making the use of it's trademark a required element in order to perform an otherwise lawful activity, any resulting trademark confusion was the fault of Sega.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I'm not entirely sure some Chinese company that neither of us has heard of is worried about that risk.

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[-] n3cr0@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Just take out your rotary tool, grind a notch into a bit, et voila! You have a tool for your BMW.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Or grind a slot in the screw and you can use a flat head screwdriver.

Be sure to upload the process and tag BMW with a FU.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'd buy 20 knockoff security bits before ever intentionally adding a flat head screw to a car

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[-] aramis87@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago

Because this head prioritizes branding over utility, neither the bit nor the screw head can withstand the torque of a standard Torx or Hex fastener. The result? Broken bits, stripped screws, and more time spent on what would otherwise be a simple task.

Ugh.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That was my first thought as well. I love torx bolts. I worked on BMWs professionally for a few years and never in all that time did I ever strip a torx bolt. Not even 1.

Of course, the engine bolts themselves snapped frequently without even touching them due to galvanic reaction to the magnesium block, and the much weaker in general aluminum bolts, but that's a different problem.

[-] FisherOfSaints@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Innovation under capitalism will always benefit capital. Any benefit to consumers is incidental.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I like the PlayStation stylized screw much more.

Stylized screw from within a PlayStation. It bears symbols from the faces of controller buttons

(Original credit for the image goes to an old reddit post)

[-] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

I thought that was so cool when I took my PS4 apart 😂 pointless, but fun for the 1% of people who would dive under the hood.

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[-] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

VW made these funky triangle topped bolt on TDi injection pumps ( or maybe it was Bosch who cares). My buddy who's a mechanic said "don't mess with those ,you need special sockets".

I took 12pt sockets and used a dremmel to grind out every other two points in the socket and had my own set to mess with the bolts they didn't want me messing with.

[-] Codpiece@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no. Another reason to not buy a BMW.

[-] four@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Have they actually used it anywhere or just have the patent? Because I expect they won't actually use it anywhere, like with Sony's (IIRC) patent where you have to shout "McDonald's!" after watching an ad. Though I wouldn't be too surprised if they actually use it

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 2 weeks ago

looks like it can be opened with a pair of needlenose pliers

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[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 13 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't R2D2 have one of these?

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[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 10 points 2 weeks ago

Why is it repost weekend this weekend? Feels like half of my feed sorted by active is reposts.

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 14 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to the internet. We hope you enjoy your stay!

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

If you didn't already know bmw had lost their design edge, you clearly haven't seen the XM or their ugly ass plastic grills on electric vehicles that don't even need grills.

I guess though I could see these being a novelty security feature for hubcaps that you don't want to be removed too easily. Beyond that it's just hostile and or dumb.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Idgaf about car design in general, but I definitely noticed when beamers started to look like Angry Birds pigs, they look sooo stupid.

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