I think the rules should be even stricter. An Hamburger should only be made in Hamburg, otherwise it's a Minced Corpse Patty.
It should actually be called Cow Mince. We have Pork Chops, Lamb Chops, they should use Cow as well.
That's a very metal name ! 🤟
Listen, I'm not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying.
Yeah, I get it , it's not literally milk. But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction" or whatever.
Same with Malzbier.
The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed.
I agree, but that's not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow's milk.
What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life.
I have seen coconut milk sold as 'coconut drink', even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid.
"Creamy nut juice" just didn't do very well in the test marketing
But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction"
By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them.
I couldn't care less what you call them. You can call them vegetable dicks and I would still eat them. It's just a ridiculous waste of resources powered by the meat lobby who have seen a portion of their market share disappear.
I'm a happy meat eater and considering the number of different kinds of sausage with all different ingredients in different proportions and different textures and different herbs and spices and different skins and different sizes and different ways to prepare them I think this is absolutely ridiculous.
If tiny dried sausages with lamb and herbs in natural skin are just as much sausage as spiced up raw mince in a plastic skin are just as much sausage as precooked hot dogs with pork and salt but mostly potato filler in mysterious edible non natural skin, then a sausage with vegetable mash for filling is definitely a sausage as well.
I hate that a sausage comes from a "food company" instead of a butcher. (Or grocer for vegan sausage)
So, food companies, just how much actual meat is there in your sausages and what animal parts are you using?
Ngl the difference between a local butchers farm sausages & mass produced meat tubes is huge.
"Ground up dead body of an animal fisted into another animals anal canal"
I mean we can just call it what it is
If it's ground up and tubed into a thin, edible casing skin, it's a sausage.
The German emperor's last chancellor Bismarck, who was decently leaning on the conservative side, said famously that there are two things where you really don't want to know how they are made: Politics and sausages.
Sausages can be called "links". Burgers can be called "patties". The only people pissed about Soy Milk, Vegan Burgers and Veggie Sausages are the corporations who sell meat exclusively, and the people who don't read food packaging. Smart vegan & vegetarians know that you need to read the ingredients before you buy that product. I always make sure I go home with the right wiener.
There's definitely some bad actors in food packaging, though. In some countries, it's insane how hard it is to differentiate between butter and some non-dairy spread at the grocery.
Sooo. There's a word.
Kackwurst, die
Grammatik
Substantiv (Femininum)
Aussprache
[ˈkakvʊʁst]
Worttrennung
Kack-wurst
Clearly, this may be, or may not be a meat product. If they want to regulate something so so far, they must go all the way!
The whole point of sausages existing is lack of meat
That is so silly. I love pork sausage but veggie sausage is the next best one and clearly is sausage.
Same as "burger", it is a preparation not an ingredient.
sausages are already pretty much non-meat products though, unless its actually well made sausage
That's fucking stupid. Sausage can be anything ordinary sausage proves this.
Sausage can be whatever as the name corresponds to beinh heavily salted.
"Minced corpse in colon + antibiotics"
desperate dinosaurs are scrambling to protect their investments in the torment of animals, who knew
But such a ban is needed. Urgently.
They want to lie? They even think that their business depends on such lies? Then the market will eliminate them anyway, and nobody is going to mourn them.
Urgently? You get easily confused in the supermarket?
I actually did have vegan "fish" by accident once. Ordered normal fish and chips, but they called the vegan stuff Vish, so it was easy to get mixed up. It was quite the disappointment (I immediately tasted that this was not fish).
I don't understand why people keep insisting that it has to be called a burger or a sausage. With a burger - OK, I kind of see that we've already muddied the waters on what can be called a burger, but a sausage? That has just about always been with meat until recently, and obviously for many people that's part of the definition. Why can't we just call it something else if the core element of what makes it a thing is absent? (And why do we even have to try to recreate meat by processing vegan stuff until what it used to be is unrecognizable? There's so much more to vegan coming than that...)
The core element of a sausage is not, that it is made from meat. Its the shape and structure, namingly "Ground up things stuffed into a thin tube, then cooked, smoked or grilled".
There have been so many changes even before adding being vegetarian to the mix.
Most sausage you buy nowadays is no longer made with pig intestines. Does that bother you as well?
There was also sausage that was not made from meat before or only contained very little, Luke Pinkel or Grützwurst
While I agree that there is much more to vegan than just meat replacements, and personally I don't care what they call it. There are a couple of arguments for recreating meat:
For the Vish 'n Chips, I fully agree. If the names are too easily mixed up, then it should be changed, 100%.
But just using the word burger or sausage as part of the productname shouldn't be banned.
As long as you put a clear descriptive of the kind of sausage in front of it like veggie sausage or quorn sausages.
If you gave people a sausage, and when they bite into it they find out its chicken sausage or even blood sausage,
would their outrage not be equally valid, since they expected a normal pork sausage?
And why do we even have to try to recreate meat by processing vegan stuff until what it used to be is unrecognizable?
Isn't that basically what the traditional sausage was as well, made from blended scrap parts and organs? Minced meat on its own is processing the meat of an animal until it is unrecognizable
We've had veggie sausages (the non meat replacement kind) for a very fucking long time. Definitely more than 30 years. Why is the term so precious now?
A sausage is a sausage, no matter what you stuff inside it. It's the shape, use and all the practicalities of a sausage that determine that it's a sausage.
When I hear "sausage" I know what to do with the thing. I can't know what it includes.
Beef? Pork? Chicken? Horse? Peas? Beans? Mushroom? Tofu?
That's to be determined by the other words on the package.
A sausage is a sausage, no matter what you stuff inside it
That is limited to english vocabulary I guess. In spanish there are distictions between salchichas, chorizos, longanizas, etc, and all of them are their own kind of "embutidos". So in spanish, it would make sense to name it "embutido de guisantes"
Similarly with milk. I know you may milk nuts (jk), but not the "frutos secos" kind. How would you milk an oatmeal? A grain of rice?
And this is about the English word in the English use, with English rules, so let's stick to those, shall we.
Milk is another word with another angle. The connotation is no longer, in everyday layman use, connected to "something you get out of a teet" and instead it is what children drink, you put in cereals or coffee, etc.
That's the beauty about languages, they evolve with the needs of the populace that uses them.
We no longer live in an agrarian society, so when somebody now speaks of milk, you don't think, "what did they milk it from", you think "what are they going to put that thing in that they bought from a shop".
Milk of Magnesia. Coconut milk. Dandelion milk. These are all descriptions of very long standing (100s of years).
Its not a lie... thats how people know and name the item. In fact this ban would punish people using natural established names for things thst have been in use for decades. It is nonsensical.
Remembering that person who bought a "soy chorizo" on accident because they read the label as a sentence.
spoiler
"I'm a sausage."
And which food companies are those I wonder. Probably the ones with a business interest in keeping consumers confused.
Sure, a vegi sausage is still a sausage.
Same thing in Swiss; it's Oat Drink, can't be called Oat Milk. Guess the meat industry is strong in EU.
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