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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 197 points 1 week ago

There are at least 3 white people here. This fuckhead just doesn't see it because they're dressed differently then they think white people dress.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 143 points 1 week ago

I was gonna say some of these people look pretty white to me. But then we're getting into the arbitrary question of who counts as white which is probably way beyond her understanding.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago

Part of being “white” is getting to decide who is “white.” This is only possible because “white” is a completely made up category. We shouldn’t even engage with the term.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago

Fair point but it's so deeply rooted. Don't we have to engage with it to some extent in order to eliminate it?

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I’ll just let my comment above stand as an example of how I think it should be engaged with. You can recognize that it’s a fantasy people have without participating in the fantasy.

[-] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It’s true that white is a made up term made to justify owning slaves and on that front it’s a meaningless way to group many different ethnicities. On the other hand as a white person I have to acknowledge that I am lumped in that group. I have privileges, and responsibilities because of it and there are social groups and spaces that are not for me. I can’t absolve myself of being white by saying white isn’t real.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I agree. It’s not about absolution. It’s about breaking down a culturally constructed instrument of oppression by refusing to participate in it. I can’t tell the world to stop treating me better because they think I’m white, which I believe is part of your point. But we do what we can, when we can, with knowledge of what we can and can’t.

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's entirely in the eye of the beholder, as white is an ephemeral western social in-group and not an ethnicity. If you think you see white people in this photo, then you do.

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Also, there were black people, but I'm sure this ethnocentric asshole didn't see them either.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

They're not white, they're Irish.

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[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 week ago

Aren't most of those people white?

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

Yes, but I imagine the original poster was thinking Aryan white.

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

The original poster still thinks "Italians aren't white"

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[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 19 points 1 week ago

The US has a very weird take on race.

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[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Oh but they meant pale white northern european locked inside without sun the whole day not slightly tan white people

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Americans apparently have a very learned eye to distinguish who's white or not.

Had a bizarre interaction in Texas once where I couldn't tell an entire staff was Mexican? My bad. Hijinx ensued. Owner was on the hook for my meal/drinks.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm Canadian.

I was visiting a friend in Texas in 2015. They were out for the day so I was just kinda wandering around in the afternoon.

Found myself belly up to a bar, chit chatting with the bartenders. Shooting the shit, having a great time. Trump came on the TV and I commented what a knob he was.

The bartender said something somber, like "Yeah if he wins, we all are gonna have to go home"

I sincerely didn't understand why. I was like "What... he's going to close the bars??" The guy was like "No... we will have to go home"

Again, I was like "what the fuck are you talking about"

Buddy looks at me like I'm from outer space. I look at him the same way.

He just slowly says "We're... all... Mexican". The whole body of staff is gravitating towards the unfolding scene.

"How the hell was I supposed to know that?" I asked. He was like "Isn't it obvious?". No? Like they had dark hair. Is everyone with dark hair Mexican?

He was like "did you walk by any construction sites today?". Yes, I had. "Think back, did the foreman look different than everyone else?". Now that is really thought back... yeah. He was like, ginger.

At this point, like 10 of the staff are watching me come to the realization, in real time, that I've been surrounded by Mexicans like the whole day and no part of my brain registered it.

I don't even really remember exactly what I said next... but it would have been along the lines of "I'm from Canada. My brain isn't even wired to distinguish a Mexican from anyone else." I'm really confused. I'm basically apologizing.

At that point they just burst out laughing. Basically surrounded at this point. They poured me a shot. Then another. They told me my bill was covered. We kept shooting the shit for a few more hours. They kept teasing me for not being able to recognize a Mexican. A relatively famous band was playing there later that night, and they snuck me back to listen to them warming up.

To this day, I still don't really understand how Americans can distinguish Mexicans. It must be a learned "skill". It was pretty eye opening talking to them... the fatigue of being treated as "lesser"... even "distinct". We had a good time.

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[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anglo-Saxons quite literally erased the locals when they came to America, this is just a musical performance with some of their descendants. 🙄

I'm telling you, if they had anything more than their physical features as common ground, anything with depth as a shared ideology, and even the most rudimentary of moral frameworks, they wouldn't be this way.

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

If you listen to her, you’d think Bad Bunny was giving out smallpox blankets to all the white people at the Super Bowl.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

Ooh, that would work really well nowadays with all the antivaxxers! New idea, pass out blankets at Trump rallies!

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Not smallpox please, a lot of innocent people aren't vaccinated against it since it was eradicated. I am because I'm an old fart, but I don't want MAGA people my age and above being the ones NOT affected. Besides you'd have to break into the CDC, or just convince Kennedy it'd be good for folks'immune systems or something.

Measles is already working on the problem all by itself.

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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Didn't some white lady sing, too in the middle somewhere? 😉

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

That lady being Lady Gaga. Yes, yes she did.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago
[-] GorGor@startrek.website 22 points 1 week ago

She is Italian, right? Does that qualify as white? Depends who/when you ask.

Personally I'm all for erasing the white identity. Its a fucking lie. My grandparents and great grandparents etc were Norwegian, Italian, Scottish. They did not consider themselves white.

If one wants to make an argument about an American melting pot identity, blending these cultures together to something new, you are lying to yourself if you try to exclude the massive influence non-'white' cultures had and continue to have on that shared cultural identity.

[-] dandelion 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah, they cut to Lady Gaga who did a song ... The existence of other people is not erasure of you.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 41 points 1 week ago

She hasn't shut the fuck up yet because her user hasn't run out of response tokens.

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago

Is bad bunny not white? I thought Puerto Rico was colonized by the spanish wiping out the majority of the native population and he looks pretty spanish. I guess this is one of those "the Irish aren't white" situations.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The reason for this is that race is a made-up concept.

Race is a pure "us-vs-them" term. That's why the term "race" was roughly equivalent to "nationality" in most European languages before the term fell out of use after WW2.

If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the "French race", the "German race" or the "English race". When the Nazis talked about the "uber race", they didn't mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)

In the USA, there weren't enough people of one nationality to dominate the area, so they had to band together and create a "shared white identity", so their us-vs-them became roughly equivalent to the continent of origin.


Since "race" doesn't have any actual definition apart from us-vs-them, it can be adapted to whatever makes sense right now.

A "white person" can be someone who looks vaguely white. It could be someone where the majority of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world (e.g., excluding Ireland, Eastern Europe, North Africa, ... even though they might look indistinguishable from people from e.g. Western Europe). It could be someone where every single one of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world. It could even be just people of a certain socio-economic group. You could even define that "true whiteness" requires a certain political affiliation.


Side note: while the term "race" fell out of use in most of Europe after WW2 and is now being reimported from the US with US meaning, the same is not true for the word "racism" that stayed in use in most European languages and is stilm used with the old European definition.

So to someone from the US, a French man hating all Brits is not a racist, but to someone from Europe, he is a racist.

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[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago

"For 13 minutes, my TV didn't have white people in the screen. I am getting oppressed!!!" That idiot

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Such nonsense. I'm sure Bad Bunny searched long and hard to find as many white people capable of dancing as he could. It's not his fault we suck at it.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

When I was growing up, a gay kid in a rural setting living in near-poverty and surrounded by constant and extreme homophobic rhetoric, there basically was no open or obvious (to me) gay representation in my little slice of the world. I literally spent ages 10 - 17 thinking I was some alien creature, the one and only. While I knew other gay men existed somewhere out there, it was clear to me that they all lived in giant cities, went around wearing dresses, tried to kidnap little kids to turn them gay, nagged straight men and children for sex, and spread HIV/AIDS.

Truly sorry for the underrepresented heterosexual, Caucasian, Christian, English-only speaking children out there in the USA and their parents and really everybody else going through this affront to their existence. I totally and completely understand how you feel.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

60 halftime shows, all in English, and it only took a single mostly Spanish halftime show for a quarter of the country to have a meltdown. Never mind that 1/10 of the country speaks Spanish. Textbook example of "When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

[-] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 20 points 1 week ago

75% of the people in the picture in white, what the f she's talking about?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

The guy on top and at the back of the truck look pretty white.

[-] VicVinegar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Many Puerto Ricans are white. I've known many people over the years who are blonde hair, blue eyes, or green eyed gingers with freckles, but are as Puerto Rican as they come. Ask your local MAGA turd if they can explain why that might be.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Poor Puerto Ricans. Considered both American and not American at the same time.

Also, does Morgan not consider Ricky Martin as white? He appeared on the show!

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Any time you see this culture war nonsense, just remember, this is what Donald wants you talking about instead of the Epstein Files.

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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Native American here: fuck you Morgan.

My kids sometimes get pissed when you show someone else attention and they desire it.

This has nothing to do with anything, just thought I'd mention it.

[-] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I've met leather skinned Floridian Caucasians who were darker than most of these people.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I have no idea of their nationalities or whatever, but some of them look pretty white to me? Just tanned.

[-] madjo@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

Bunch of snowflake pussies.

Why are they complaining about bad bunny, didn’t they have their own safe space show?

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