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Can't fuckin believe his nonsense
I wish somebody could stand up to him. But war is hell on earth, literally, so I can't really blame countries not getting involved. And given the depressingly small number of military officers resigning/refusing the illegal orders given so far, it's a pretty bleak picture all around...
But war is hell on earth
Inb4 MASH reference
Honestly I'm disappointed in the military members that aren't refusing their illegal orders. Clearly they either see no issues here, or they think the Nuremberg Defense will work this time.
The Nuremberg Defense only becomes an issue if there's a Nuremberg trial. And that requires a coalition of countries willing and able to fight and defeat the fascists. Right now the most powerful countries in the world are all leaning into fascism, and the few countries that still oppose it are nowhere near a military match.
I can. It's totally on brand. America has only fought a handful of "good wars" in the last century and a half.
I'd argue one, and only because FDR wasn't a shit bag.
War is a racket.
There will be a war to distract from the Epstein files, his horrid economy and all the harm he is doing to America.
What a great period of American history to leave behind ... a war in South America to hide the child sex crimes of their leader
Can't be worse than Iraq. This period of your history is already "great," my friend.
The fat president laughed, you are wrong.
Give that man the Peace Prize!
War time is the best time for a grift, ask Dick Cheney... Oh wait
Pulling a Putin.
What are you doing amassing troops at the Ukraine border in a country you’ve manufactured lies about while your country flounders economically under shitty leadership?
Oh, nothing…
What are you doing amassing ships and troops in the Caribbean near a country you’ve manufactured lies about while your country flounders economically under shitty leadership?
Oh, nothing…
E: lookit all the “butwhatabout the US?!” who have poor reading comprehension. I already said the US is potentially behaving shitty just like Russia did do shitty. Very clearly I said that it’s a preexisting pattern, and I did not deflect from how shitty the US’s behavior is by butwhatabouting Russia. I only noted the pattern. Nonetheless, all the butwhatabout’s can’t seem to comprehend that and insist on butwhatabout-ing the US. Learn how to read. You’re not scoring any points.
Pulling a Putin.
Regime changes in South America are as American as apple pie. No need to invoke Putin.
Oh for sure. The US has used the Caribbean and the rest of the Americas south of it like it’s own little imperialist/colonialist backyard plaything. Banana republics and dictators and all.
Americanly does something american
What are we, a bunch of russians?
Trump just emulating his hero.
Noted, the appeal to hypocrisy as if people reading this are unaware of similar historic actions of any powerful country.
Trump just emulating his hero.
Who was emulating every US adminstration since WWII.
Who was emulating every world power before the US was even the US. But keep trying ypur “I hate the US hurr durr… butwhatabout the US?!” argument. Let’s look at it a little closer though…you already agreed that the US is behaving like Russia, so I guess my point stands.
The only person doing whataboutism here is you.
2025, USA telegraphs a regime change in Venezuela - perfectly in line with 200 years of US history and some 40 regime changes.
"but what about Putin?"
Putin has fuck all to do with America doing what America does best - military intervention and aggression in South America.
holy shit, i had no idea this was a decade in the making
U.S.-Venezuela Escalation Timeline
March 2015
- Obama signs E.O. 13692 declaring Venezuela a national emergency under IEEPA
- State Dept: Venezuela-Related Sanctions | CRS Report IF10715
August 2017
- Trump states military option “not ruled out”
- E.O. 13808 blocks Venezuelan government access to U.S. financial markets
- Wikipedia: Proposed U.S. Invasion of Venezuela
November 2018
- E.O. 13850 authorizes sectoral sanctions framework
- Morgan Lewis Analysis
January 2019
- OFAC designates PdVSA (state oil company)
- U.S. recognizes Juan Guaidó as interim president
- CRS Venezuela Sanctions Overview
August 2019
- E.O. 13884 implements “maximum pressure” blocking all Venezuelan government property
- Wikipedia: Sanctions During Venezuelan Crisis
January 2020
- 82nd Airborne conducts airfield seizure exercise in Colombia near Venezuelan border
- We Are The Mighty
March 2020
- DOJ indicts Maduro on narco-terrorism charges; offers $15M bounty
- Al Jazeera: Trump’s $50M Reward
April 2020
- “Enhanced Counter-Narcotics Operations” deploys destroyers to Caribbean (USS Lassen, Preble, Farragut)
- Navy conducts Freedom of Navigation Operations near Venezuelan waters
- USNI News | EU ISS Analysis
October 2023
- Biden issues General Licenses 43/44 (Barbados Agreement) providing conditional sanctions relief
- Morgan Lewis | UPI
July 2024
- Disputed Venezuelan election; Maduro claims victory
- U.S. declares opposition candidate Edmundo González won
- CNN: Venezuela Election | Wikipedia: 2024 Venezuelan Election
January 2025
- Trump re-intensifies sanctions; bounty raised to $25M
- PolitiFact
August 2025
- Maduro bounty raised to $50M (largest U.S. bounty ever)
- Al Jazeera
September 2025
- U.S. begins strikes on vessels allegedly carrying narcotics; 21+ strikes, 80+ killed
- ABC News
November 24, 2025
- Trump designates “Cartel de los Soles” as Foreign Terrorist Organization; Maduro named as member
- CNN
November 27, 2025
- Trump states U.S. “land action” will begin “very soon”
- USS Gerald R. Ford CSG, USS Iwo Jima ARG deployed; 15,000+ troops in region
- CNN | OPB/AP | Al Jazeera
Legal Authorities Used (No Congressional Authorization)
| Authority | Mechanism | Source |
|---|---|---|
| IEEPA (50 USC §1701) | Declared “national emergency” enables sanctions | Wikipedia |
| Article II Commander-in-Chief | OLC opinions allow force for “national interests” without Congress | DOJ OLC Libya Opinion |
| 2001 AUMF | No geographic/temporal limits; used against “associated forces” | Congress.gov |
| War Powers “hostilities” loophole | Deployments don’t trigger 60-day clock absent sustained combat | State Dept 2011 Testimony |
| FTO Designation | Authorizes force against designated terrorist members | CNN |
| Title 50 Covert Action | Presidential finding only requires Gang of Eight notification | CRS R45191 |
Maduro is calling Trump's bluff I think.
Trump can't actually send troops in, or do anything more than Tomahawk some facilities (if even that). So I'm pretty sure Trump is just getting desperate with this "close the airspace" shit.
It's like pretending to swing at someone hoping they will run away, knowing full well you won't fight them if they don't.
But America also has a long history of being the bully on the block that no one should mess with ... but the bully keeps provoking everyone and when someone hits back, even if it doesn't hurt the bully, the bully's going to bring his baseball bat and brass knuckles, beat up the person who fought back and argue that they were just defending themselves.
Israel didn't come up with the idea on their own.
I don't think that is how bullies operate my friend.
And as everyone knows, when someone throws a sprig of mistletoe at a bully they'll come back with a chess set and eat them in front of you and then give you a turtle.
Really? What's stopping him?
He is still afraid of consequences. Look at the reaction to Hegseth's double tap order. "Didn't happen". That's what someone who is afraid he has crossed the line would say.
If he was unstoppable you'd already see opposition jailed if not murdered. We're not there yet.
Look at the reaction to Hegseth's double tap order.
Absolutely no way double tapping is "the line." America is way past that.
Disagree.
A truly confident fascist power wouldn't give two shits about pushback on an illegal order.
They care. They see the GOP involved in the investigation and they know without the full slate of the GOP complicit their grip on power is tenuous.
They are moving the pieces around to get to that point, and everyone sees it, and we're all shocked they haven't been dealt with yet, but we're not quite there.
When more people die on US soil, you'll know.
Here's the thing: Never in US history has a US president (or any other member of the executive, though I could be wrong on this one) been prosecuted or otherwise suffered an adverse effect for war crimes. Hell, Obama repeatedly got away scot-free with this exact same war crime, and nothing I've seen these past few years tells me the US has gotten better at prosecuting war crimes. Hell, at this point he can literally just call it an official act.
I'm not so sure, the last person that called the "bluff" was Saddam. I don't think Maduro is in a better position.
I don't think Maduro is in a better position.
While Maduro himself isn't a very well liked leader, his party, the PSUV, and the social movement base that put Hugo Chavez and the PSUV into power to begin with, is very popular.
And that social movement base is made up of a network of communes and neighborhood committees which run their own infrastructure, train cadre, operate people's militias, etc. In addition to the traditional, top-down organs of the Venezuelan military.
Plus, the opposition is even more unpopular than Maduro, within the country, and can't even scrounge up anyone to represent them politically. Sure, right now it's Machado, but does anyone remember Juan Guaido? A man that the US arbitrarily recognized as the real president of Venezuela, despite 80% of Venezuelans having never heard of him?
That's much more significant than Sadam, who's Baath party had no real social base by 2003, and was highly disconnected from the interests of most Iraqis.
Not to Mention that the geography is very different. Iraq, save for the northern mountains, is very flat. While Venezuela is very mountainous. The coasts aren't flat, easy to land on, beaches. They're giant mountains which give a lot of cover from naval artillery, and the rugged terrain means insurgents in the mountains who are nigh impossible to root out.
Why can’t tRump send troops in?
MAGA is already having a stroke trying to make everything make sense. Sending in troops and losing American soldiers' lives for dubious reasons will only break MAGA more.
If they lose too much support, they will pull the plug on Trump.
Which is exactly how wars start.
Meanwhile the shitgibbon is pardoning a former south american president who was *convicted" of running cocaine into the USA and supporting the cartels.
*Central American
Anyone banking on the US military having spine and/or a conscience, y'all better be watching this.
Everytime you hear about US having any sort of "values", you can chuck it up as propaganda.
They stand for nothing but self-aggrandizing bullshit.
"Tensions escalate"
US escalates tensions more like
Wtf... I did not see the orange cancer starting a war out of nowhere with freakin Venezuela. Can pudding-brain finally be put out of our misery, or is it too much to hope the GOP (guardians of pedophiles) will grow spines?
Put these traitor fucks in cages already. Trump voters you own all of this shit and none of you will ever be forgiven. Your progeny will spend decades trying to distance themselves from you and your disgrace. You are traitors.
first the world takes Russia then the world takes USA
D day and Nuremberg all over again
Not happening on either count. The EU is too chicken shit to "take" Russia and there's no reason for anybody not directly in the US's orbit to interrupt it while it kills itself.
I guess Poland is safe because it was done before.
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