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[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 67 points 3 weeks ago

wtf is going on in nigeria :D

[-] prole 61 points 3 weeks ago
[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fucking pedo cults, man.

[-] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 3 weeks ago

My guess is the billions that the US has spent to export evangelical bigotry in Africa.

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 30 points 3 weeks ago

Not to disagree, but a lot of other places spent billions on exporting bigotry to Africa. Unfair to give the US all the credit.

[-] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

You are right that the US doesn't have a monopoly on this, but they are almost certainly the front runner. There are plenty of European conservatives that donate to these "causes" and we can't forget the Catholic church that has recently compared "gender ideology" to nuclear war. Russia has also been pushing conservative and anti LGBT views, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in Africa. I'm sure there are plenty of others that I'm leaving out.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In recent history it's mostly the US. It's a big country, and a rich country. Canadian evangelicals do their part, but will always play second fiddle just on population grounds, while Europe is just less religious. (The funny thing is that as a result of their success overseas, evangelical churches around here are getting pretty brown and diverse, which was not the plan)

Obviously this whole chart is outside of the colonial era.

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

In recent history it's mostly the US.

Guess i can't really argue wity that. What remains is the question whether the change was mainly driven by outside forces, or is mainly the result of internal pressure. We know who recently exported the most bigotry, but was it more influencial then the bigotry that was exported there earlier? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Obviously this whole chart is outside of the colonial era.

I agree 1993 was after the colonial era, but my point is that Nigeria wasn't a blank slate that was never influenced by anything before they collected the data for this chart.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sure. That goes for India as well, though. This thread really seemed to be about who's gotten worse.

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[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert, but more familiar than most westerners.

Nigeria has a particularly rough history of religious extremism and totalitarianism. Even a lot of the indigenous beliefs were particularly intolerant (although this varied a lot, as Nigeria is an extremely diverse nation). These beliefs are rare nowadays, but still influence the culture and superstition. Adding to this, you have the influence of two abrahamic religions - in the north is a significant Islamic population, and in the south, Christianity largely imported (and enforced) by the British. I can't speak for the Islamic beleifs, but as was the case in many other places, the Christian beliefs imported and enforced were generally more conservative and extreme, and less allowed to change.

As well as this, the brutality of both regional warlords, colonization, then multiple different military dictatorships that followed, and now an ineffective government where terrorism and organized crime are common, lead many people to become more religious. Even now with a (relatively) stable and calm government, churchs and mosks are still one of the only sources for social assistance and security in communities. At the same time, the central positon of these churches leads to them being very corrupt and greedy, often being run more like a cult than a church as we tend to think of one. At the same time, in the modern world, this greed mean they also take in a lot of money from influential "Christian" organizations, for example, a lot of very rich, very political Anerican mega-churches, and will happily bend their teachings to appease wealthy donors.

All of this has led to Nigeria being effectively a perfect storm for homophobia and religious discrimination despite being (relatively) free.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Given the statistics, even gays are homophobes there

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

well, they are probably scared shitless if presented with the questionnaire and they prefer not to draw unwanted attention to themselves.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago

Not a lot of gay orgies at least

It's likely religion doing its thing again

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Heritage foundation.

[-] Zizzy 40 points 3 weeks ago

Even in progressive countries like norway thats one in ten people think that homosexuality is never or rarely ok. Insane. Thats so many people. Its a minority, sure, but its still common.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately every country has their low-water-mark percentage of irredeemable bigots. Thankfully most of them tend to live out in the middle of nowhere, away from civilised people.

[-] sep@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Problem is that those people have the internet now...

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Christians aren't people.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Except for Nigeria :(

Considering that the majority of countries are missing from this, i wonder how many more there are where it got worse.

[-] GiveOver@feddit.uk 36 points 3 weeks ago

I think I've made this comment before but I'm always amused at the phrasing of homosexuality being rarely justified.

So gay sex is WRONG and you'll go to HELL for your DEBAUCHE...wait 😳 he's cute! 😍 ok god will let you off this time ☺️.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

it's common sense that homosexuality is acceptable when it's between two hot women /s

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[-] khannie@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Japan with the massive turnaround. Netherlands chill AF as usual.

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[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 weeks ago

Does anyone know why Argentina was/is so progressive compared to its neighbors like Brazil and Chile?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My guess: Larger % of people living in city centers vs rural areas. A quick glance at population data over time seems to back that up, but you know what they say about correlation.

[-] zeca@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe has something to do with the type of colonisation in each country. Argentina had its first university in 1613, while Brazil had its first in 1808. Brazil as a colonial project kept its extractivist nature for a lot longer.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's a really good question, I'm from Argentina and I don't have a solid answer. Like someone else said the colonization and history is likely to be part of the reason, but I would like to remark that Argentina has a lot more influence from Italy, Spain, Germany and France, and also Jewish ( iirc Buenos Aires used to be the city with the largest jewish population after New York in the 90's). It's a very different cultural melting pot compared to any other country in South America.

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting! How are the county's vibes regarding immigrants? Im always looking for a backup county in case my current one goes to shit again :)

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

In general the culture is very much 'you do you'. People mind their own business and don't discriminate much. There is some animosity towards immigrants from some neighboring countries, but you would already know if that was your demographic. Occasionally you find some disdain towards English-speaking immigrants, but I would say that's overshadowed by admiration in general.

Overall I'd say the vibe is positive.

The main concern with Argentina isn't discrimination but economic instability, corruption, and high crime rates. Buenos Aires, its capital, is rough. If you are seriously considering it, my suggestion would be pick another province and ideally bring your own work as a freelancer or similar, because making money can be challenging.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Argentina used to be first world as well, for whatever that's worth.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, Br and CL made a lot more progress. What gets to me is Mr Latam LGBT is behind Argentina by one measily point

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

Didn't know the world excludes all of Africa except Nigeria where homophobia is still very much a thing. Hell my ex was Zulu and my current girlfriend is Kenyan. Homophobia is alive and well in everywhere that was conveniently left our? Lol

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[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 11 points 3 weeks ago

thats great :3

now show the islamic countries😁

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago

Icelands decline is because racist Garry has died.

[-] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Racist Gerry, who ate 80000 racists, must be considered an outlier and excluded from racism studies.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Did not expect Japan that high up, I guess the gay mangas had an effect.

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[-] 0ops@piefed.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't expect China to score well but sheesh

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago

AFAIK the government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes. Their politicians don't use it as a weapon, but I could be wrong.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes

Ehh..... Not really. Homophobia is just different in East Asian cultures. A lot of Asian people don't really care if someone they don't know is gay, but are incredibly harsh towards their own family members if they come out. Pretty much all East Asia is still extremely culturally conservative and still holds onto Confucianist social values like abiding to strict social expectations.

[-] SCmSTR 5 points 3 weeks ago

What a weird and confusing way to phrase that.

[-] enteroninternet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Good they did not include Bangladesh. It would be all Red. Peoples view did not change.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

They included Nigeria instead, where it rose from 94% to 96%

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[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Gotta love the Dutch. <3

[-] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I want to note that Taiwan is the first Asian country in the world to legalize gay marriage.

Some of these info graphics tend to clump China with us.

[-] MaybeNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

"Homosexuality can never... be justified." is an odd choice, but I'm sure that's what nets some positive responses in various cultures. I wonder how the reverse question would poll - "Homosexuality requires justification.".

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[-] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think a direct link to the data/source should be required while posting in this community. Sure, it would reduce submissions but the quality will be much higher.

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