I feel like I've seen this post before - dijon vu.
Grey Poupon is not fancy mustard. You can buy that shit in any grocery store, it was developed by food scientists and is mass produced in giant semi-automated factories. It's also not particularly expensive. If you can only afford yellow mustard but not Grey Poupon you shouldn't be buying any mustard because your budget is way too tight to be paying for condiments you can get free in a fast food restaurant.
The only reason people think it’s fancy is because of some dumb commercials made in the 80s.
Those weren't from the '90s? Am I so old that I'm now conflating these decades?
That is some perspective.
It reminds me of another conversation starter about wealth inequality. Where do poor people buy their bed sheets? The answers are usually Walmart or Salvation Army. Where do middle class people buy sheets? Nordstroms or some other department store. Where do rich people buy sheets? They don’t. They have people for that.
Oh yes, the classic “the poor people are secretly happy and that bothers me” argument. It’s like a cat call for stupid people. The whole point of it is to say “you’re not allowed to have anything remotely nice because I consider myself better than you.”
It’s mental illness made into a political platform.
I love the idiocy of the view that the poorest among us are eating like kings for free while we all suffer and toil for peanuts. I mean, how dumb do you have to be? I've got a steal of a deal on some property on mars you may be interested in.
I have MAGA family. The first thing they always mention about SNAP is how "welfare queens" are gaming the system, even though they were all on food stamps at one point. It's purely all about racism and punching down. They don't like the idea of black and brown people eating on "their" taxdollars. However, when my brother was on food stamps, it was out of "necessity" because he relied on SNAP to feed his step children.
white people make up the largest block of snap recipients.
rural white people are represented very large chunk inside that group - I will never understand how trump can continually hurt his own voters (see: closing down hospitals in rural america, increasing the cost of healthcare in rural america etc.,) and still get their support and am left to conclude they're deranged cultists, and dumb ones at that.
I'm open to counter examples but at this point... I know one republican, he's basically an independent now because he's disgusted by a draft dodging treason buffoon like most sane people should be. The ones holding trump up at this point are either entirely in on the hate (stephen miller, bannon, etc.,) or completely deranged cultists.
It's a cult. My parents became super religious out of nowhere in 2016 began worshiping Trump like he's a demigod. I regrettedly visited them with a few months ago and now they're prepping for civil war with "people from the cities". When mental illness reaches this point of criticality, there's no point of return. They simply live in a different reality. Voting republican is an existential crisis to them within their Qanon-based media bubble.
I'm thankful I don't have to have these discussions with my dad who passed in 2012; I have a bad feeling he'd be all maga.
that's a really tough experience; best luck with the future as the shitshow progresses; it's so fucked up that these want to be patriots are destroying this country.
I'm sorry that you lost your father so long ago :/ However, you do make a solid point. Watching your parents slowly lose their minds might be ultimately more painful in the long run. My parents were always abusive white trash, but now I don't even recognize them anymore. I guess decades of alcoholism and hatred will do that do to a person..
Same, overheard one day they are paying immigrants $3000 a month to not work. Like what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people? That doesn't hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. But there's no reasoning with people who lack any form of it.
That's how my dad was. He was the one only one who actually needed food stamps; everybody else was cheating the system. As far as I could tell, it wasn't about race because he'd talk shit about other white people who used food stamps, too.
who is eating that much mustard to be unable to afford it
His supermarket probably has house brands of spicy brown and Dijon mustards. They will taste no different. It's not like Ketchup where only one company knows how to make it.
There's one brand of mustard I genuinely love and would go way out of my normal wheelhouse to get.
It's called Lars Own and I've never had better mustard before or since
This is just a totally brain dead take. Maybe the SNAP recipient likes brown mustard and prioritizes it. And you don’t care that much so you don’t prioritize it. If it mattered to you, you would budget to get fancy mustard.
If you really do feel you can’t afford fancy mustard, you shouldn’t be mad at the person who earns food assistance and then uses it to buy fancy mustard, you should be mad that you aren’t making enough to afford fancy mustard.
It’s also like $4 to get a bottle of Gray Poupon, absolutely ridiculous to be trying to whip people into a frenzy over that to begin with.
This is not the first time Republicans threw an absolute shit fit over negligibly more expensive mustard...
All something needs is a French name and suddenly its fancy in the US.
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Yellow mustard is not less fancy. It's yellow because it has turmeric in it. That's more ingredients and it's one of those fancy unique spices.
The reason it's cheap is because Americans like the flavor of turmeric in their mustard so some companies have made a cheap version of it.
Plus, different mustards for different foods. I like a yellow with a lot of things, but on a hotdog is pretty classic. I like a spicy brown mustard with some chicken. And maybe a stoneground for a deli sandwich. Chinese mustard from some restaurants, like with spring rolls, is also quite the treat at times, if you like the spice level! I'm hungry.
"That foreigner/minority/impoverished person wants your cookie!" says the oligarch, standing on a mound of one billion cookies.
"poor people shouldn't be able to afford food because I'm irresponsible with my money"
.... That's what this sounds like.
If you're not "poor enough" to need snap, and you can't afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you're in denial, or you need to learn money management.
Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that's the only place that money can be spent AFAIK.... So they're forced to be responsible with their food money. They can't use the funds to get drunk at the pub and stumble down the street picking fights and ending up in the drunk tank.
If you’re not “poor enough” to need snap, and you can’t afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you’re in denial, or you need to learn money management.
There are breakpoints where earning slightly more money can cost you more benefits than you gained in pay. I could also totally see someone being in that range where they're only a little out of range for SNAP and as such have to eat on their own income while someone earning a bit less gets supplemented to a higher total budget than they have.
Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that’s the only place that money can be spent AFAIK…
I mean without doing shady shit, yeah. But then in lots of places there are known and routinely practiced ways to launder SNAP into cash. One that was popular here for a time a while back was a convenience store that would buy cases of canned soda of specific kinds from anyone who came in with them for less than wholesale price. People on SNAP who wanted to launder it into cash would go somewhere like Wal-Mart, buy cases, go to this store and resell them at a loss to get cash while the store stocks shelves at a discount.
Laundering snap into cash seems like an enforcement problem.
But then again, we don't want more cops... So I'm a bit split on it.
So hands up everyone. Who's consuming so much mustard that they have to replenish their supply on a monthly basis? Quite frankly you lot are weird
Whole discussion is about " I can only afford 1/3 price generic mustard, but SNAP recipients are spoiled"
SNAP funds can also be used to buy cheap mustard to stetch limited SNAP budget.
Are poor people really gorging themselves on fine condiments? Of course not. Ridiculous.
Yes, we are. I have nothing to put them on though, I'm just pouring Poupon straight down the throat hole.
This made me howl like that one-too-loud audience member from a canned laughter cassette tape.
It also bothers me that there's the implication that poor people don't deserve any luxuries. As if being poor is a moral failing, so you should suffer.
Of course, what's really absurd is the trillions of dollars the US spends on military bullshit every year, not the fact that some unemployed worker might be able to buy top-shelf mustard.
If that’s all you can afford, you might need snap tbh
SNAP recipients get nothing as Trump just announced he is going to brazenly violate the court orders that they be restored.
They charge for the blue checkmarks? And...people do it? I haven't had xitter since years before nazi boy bought it.
Yes, it was one of the more contreversial changes he did. Before, you had to be "vetted" by xitter staff as being both notable and who you said you were. That wasn't a great system, and was effectively a nepotism/who you knew game, but you wouldn't see blue checkmarks for fake accounts.
It used to be a sign of trustworthiness.
Now anyone can get one for a monthly fee.
what I find shocking is that the website still exists and has so many users; I even know a user IRL who hasn't noticed it has gotten any worse since Elon took over ...
It's so weird seeing that sunshine account when our local sunshine lemming is the opposite.
Imagine being the kind of ghoul that thinks if people need assistance, that assistance should be the absolute bottom of the barrel lest someone who didn't need the assistance chose to not spend the money they have the freedom to decide how to spend.
Life isn't zero sum.
If you want fancier mustard and you're not on food stamps, just spend one of the extra dollars you must have to cause that. It's not gonna run out
Edit: typo
Life isn’t zero sum.
That is the crux of it. They believe it is. Wholeheartedly. It's part of their core being at this point. If someone is receiving something, they must be losing something in return. It's their tax money.
They're incapable of making the mental connection that corporations and the rich aren't paying anywhere near even a fair share of taxes that could entirely pay for those programs to apply to every citizen, including themselves. And the media preys on that to further pit themselves against their fellow citizens because it's all owned by those same rich assholes.
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