So's that kfc you chow down after netball, karen but I don't see you memeing that shit.
(And it's a celtic tradition, a large chunk of which makes up the Australian population.)
And it's a celtic tradition
Even the buying of candy, handing it out, and dressing up?
Yeah, all the people trying to defend it by saying it's Celtic/from the British Isles are just clowns. At least the argument of "it's just kids having fun" is possible to take seriously, because it's engaging with the discussion in an honest manner.
Wherever it comes from its a great way for kids to actually meet the people in their local community rather than every house being an island.
Is this meme depicting a kangaroo decking a child supposed to portray the kangaroo as the one in the right?
It's a remake of the Batman meme where he's slapping Robin. That one is just as bad.
Halloween has been celebrated in the UK and Ireland for hundreds of years, and the Irish brought it to America.
There has been dressing up and going door to door for hundreds of years too, and even jack o lanterns have been around for ages.
The holiday is much more a UK thing than it is an American thing, it's rather surprising actually that it's not as much a thing in Australia...
Not round here it isn't....
Oh please. Nobody of sound mind actually believes that the Hallowe'en celebrated in America, that some corporations are trying to make a thing here too, has anything more than a passing resemblance to the traditional Celtic practices it's based upon.
The Halloween celebrated in the UK is literally just kids getting dressed up and going door to door for free candy. They have been doing that in the UK for hundreds of years before the US started doing it when Irish immigrants brought it over.
This isn't some whacky theory dude, it's fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick-or-treating#Guising
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
No one is saying the modern Halloween is meant to be a Celtic tradition, it's just a bit of fun.
It's also probably the least commercialized holiday as well. You buy some candy and put the porch light on, or don't and leave the porch light off.
Get a costume, or throw something together, grab a pillowcase and off you go.
It's a far cry from Christmas, Easter, Valentine's Day, etc. which are far more commercialized worldwide.
Christmas and Valentine's Day both have sincere secular associations to them, and Christmas and Easter both have a pretty hefty religious component for a sizeable minority of the population. Hallowe'en is literally nothing but commercialism. Buy a plastic shitty costume. Buy lots of lollies (sorry: "candy", for the Americans lecturing the rest of the world about how it's totally not American cultural imperialism) at marked-up prices, and decorate your house with yet more plastic crap. But without themes of family and connectiveness to act as a redeeming factor.
Halloween’s sincere, secular association is FUN. It’s also about community; it’s the only holiday that actually involves getting together and participating with your neighbors rather than just your family. Under capitalism, all holidays involve a deluge of cheap plastic crap, but at least Halloween sticks to its season.
It's also one of the few nights of the year where entire neighbourhoods get together, meet each other. Families get dressed, make costumes, go door to door.
We set up tables and chairs on our front porch here in Brisbane, and have tacos or pizza while we watch Halloween movies and wait for trick or treaters.
We hang out with parents, hand out bottles of water, some candy, and I prefer giving out some useful treats like themed pencils, erasers, this year we gave out stickers for potion bottles, so when kids get home they can clean out an old jar and make cool potions to decorate for next year.
It is the only time a year when we see all of our neighbours and I would say it is the one holiday we all feel most connected.
Except kids can make their own costumes and decorations. The best ones tend to be home made.
For many its just a fun time to embrace the macabre.
Fun fact, it was actually a Canadian import to America, and before that came from Ireland and Scotland.
and before that came from Ireland and Scotland
The American version of Hallowe'en (which is what supermarkets are trying to import into Australia) has only the most passing resemblance to its origins in Celtic tradition. And it's certainly not being important because of its Celtic connections.
How it is now is uniquely American though, and has almost nothing to do with those older origins.
Are you from Ireland or from Scotland?
I'm a Celt from Scotland.
Rothe is correct; that's not how we used to celebrate it. Our Hallowe'en involved carving a tumshie out of the vegetable we call a turnip, but which the rest of the UK calls a swede. A tumshie being a scary face - hollowing it for a candle is out of the question; a turnip is much too hard. Might involve reading some spooky stories and perhaps a fancy-dress party. Fireworks aren't out of the question; we'll have some ready for Nov 5.
No trick-or-treating, no pumpkins - those are Americanisms.
I'm from Ireland. Going door calling is absolutely part of it. Specifically saying "trick or treat" is not, because, y'know, English. But it doesn't really matter what English phrase you use, it's not going to be Irish. So?
I'm with you on pumpkins but there's more interesting hills to die on.
Damn now I feel stupid for getting mad at nothing
Haha bonza, old mate's dressed up as a boxing roo! Ripper costume, might wear something like it same time next year!
(Waiting until all youse weirdoes with a hate-boner for this one particular cultural tradition to chuck a wobbly when you find out that christmas, easter and new year's as defined by the gregorian calendar are also foreign imports)
Well fuck off to you too.
If you hate it that much practice what you preach and go back to England, colonizer.
Halloween is a Celtic holiday that was changed by the Catholics and brought to America via Irish immigrants, then further corrupted.
We just gotta change it to " Oi, fuckin, give us some ~~candy~~ lollies cunt or we'll fuck your house up!" instead of trick or treat.
*Lollies.
Fuck.
Shouldn't they be bumming darts not hunting candy
Nah they do that down at the shops.
Fun fact, if someone's coming on your property and stealing your bumpers from your ashtray, what you do is collect a few ashtrays worth of them, piss on them, let them dry and repeat for a week, then you put an ashtray of the fermented piss infused bumpers out and let them steal it, do this for a few days and they will stop.
I don’t care that Halloween’s an American import, it’s still the best day of the year.
Disclaimer: I think I got lost in the wrong community; what is written below has nothing to do with Australia of course, but maybe you also have similar traditions.
I guess you never experienced full on Walpurgisnacht celebrations (incl. Waldmeisterbowle and females with scissors trying to maim males) then, or Dark Carnival.
As an American in NZ I did not expect any trick or treaters this year as we didn't have any last year. But we got a few dozen Indian kids.
Instead of "trick or treat" say "Give us some sweets ya fuckin drongo, or we'll egg your house! Gettin this outfit together was hard yakka."
See I can tell you aren't Australian because you didn't say cunt once. But I respect the effort.
M o n o c u l t u r e
That might be the scariest American thing I see all year.
Somehow I don't think travelling around in the suburbs with your kid in your SUV, going to stranger's places because Facebook told you these houses give the best goodies is how it should work.
A place for Aussie memes.
