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Ideally, I'd love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren't in charge.

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[-] mercano@lemmy.world 127 points 4 weeks ago

One of the double speaks an authoritarian spokesperson has to perform is the opposition is both strong and weak at the same time. Strong, so they can be blamed for anything that goes wrong, and to stoke fears in the faithful, and weak because no one is allowed to be stronger than the authority.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 weeks ago

I know that is 1984, but it really reminds me of the "could god create a boulder so large that he could not lift it" thought experiment.

[-] Sternout@feddit.org 22 points 4 weeks ago

The christian god does seem to have some stuff in common with an authoritarian dictator.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 99 points 4 weeks ago

Nah nah nah dawg.

The antifa deep state led by Soros and his Jewish space lizards are holding the government hostage. Except Israel, those guys is cool.

[-] prole 9 points 4 weeks ago

Imagine if Biden or Obama had a shutdown, and they had Soros step in and privately fund the military.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 74 points 4 weeks ago

And the Democrats have also made abundantly clear what the Republicans have to do in order to get their votes.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 61 points 4 weeks ago

Please please can we stop trying to catch their lies? ALL THEY EVER DO IS LIE. It's not a gotcha. It's pointless. Their people don't care and we all know they are full of shit. You can't beat a fascist in discourse.

[-] Fredthefishlord 47 points 4 weeks ago

It's not just important to discourse. It's important to know when they're lying, even if that is always, and more importantly, what the truth is. You cannot let only their narrative exist

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, plus, it's not the people who already know they constantly lie that they are trying to convince. It's the people who don't pay a lot of attention and occasionally get something. They're trying to tell that person that Democrats are doing this for them.

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[-] kelseybcool@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

Documenting all of it is really important, even though it's fucking exhausting.

Ultimately it isn't really for fascists or the willfully ignorant to be swayed; it's so that in the future humanity is able to review and learn lessons to improve upon the past.

I hope.

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe you should swear in the Democrat that Arizona elected, Mike? Since they are required.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago

Obviously you are imagining things the only things the Republicans have is a majority in the House and Senate, the support of the supreme Court, the White House and the richest man in the world and most oligarchs. Oh and some really crazy fascist MAGA cultists. It's practically nothing and these crazy people act like they run the government. I mean really.

[-] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Everything is fine.

[-] dxc@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Ideally, I'd love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren't in charge.

Well, not so nice this day without a spine.

[-] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 weeks ago

If the Dems were in charge, they'd have sworn in the representative-elect from Arizona that he refuses to by now.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago

It would make sense, wouldn't it? It would be hilarious to see how fast the entire Republican party would spin if Democrats started taking credit for all the terrible shit Republicans have done with their power.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Oh my God that would be genius lmao. Also no way it could backfire

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I know you're being sarcastic. It would absolutely destroy their chances of ever holding office, but if Dems don't win the midterms, that's it. They may as well close up the Party HQs, retire from politics and IDK, take up knitting or something.

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[-] madjo@feddit.nl 39 points 4 weeks ago

MAGA doesn't care about reality, all they care about is hating those that aren't them.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 25 points 4 weeks ago

I mean Trump's policies are actively destroying everything and farmers. But no matter what he does, they will blame the democrats and their base will eat it up. It is perfect. You can do whatever the hell you want and you win no matter how shitty everything gets.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

Now I know how the Christian god feels. What a great gig!

[-] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

"Everything bad is their fault, everything good is my idea"

Even when you lose you win if you don't care about the score lol

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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 38 points 4 weeks ago

What an awful, awful little man.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago

Did the democrats make you go to Grindr too Mike?

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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

Their display looks like a high school civics class project.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

Mike Johnson wants to kiss boys and he's real mad about it

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

If his texts are any indication, he wants to do more than kiss, and has done so on many occasions.

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[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

their words mean nothing because they are all lies. only their actions matter. we shouldn't waste energy discussing their worthless words.

[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago

The record of contemporary recognition of their lies is important. Every day there are people who, knowingly or not, are teetering on the edge of leaving the MAGA cult, and these call-outs catch some of them.

MAGA's base isn't an entirely static crowd over time. Some people leave, and new people are indoctrinated. Efforts like this are important to trying to reduce the number of people vulnerable to becoming MAGA, to reduce the number of people actually becoming MAGA, and to increase the number who leave MAGA after finally seeing whatever was enough for them.

MAGA has shown repeatedly that large-scale efforts to crack their base apart aren't effective, which mostly leaves us with trying to keep new people from joining and trying to shake a few people off the edges wherever we can.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

Republicans have never demonstrated the ability to govern in my life time.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago

So, what they're saying is they've been lying about having a mandate all this time.

[-] eRac@lemmings.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

You don't understand! The public gave them a mandate, but Democrats stole enough seats to take control anyway! From the shadows!!!

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago

AOC or Jasmine Crocket should go "Cool, if you are not in charge then I nominate myself for Speaker of the House".

[-] Novamdomum@fedia.io 17 points 4 weeks ago

If you look closely you can see the sweat.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 17 points 4 weeks ago

They can’t even get their own party to vote unanimously for this bill. Why do they expect the other party to at all?

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 weeks ago

Translation: If they voted yes on this bill they hate, the government would reopen. They have all the power here.

[-] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 15 points 4 weeks ago

"The government is reopened. Everything we democrats want is from now on in effect. If the republicans have a problem with that, they can shut down the government. You're welcome!"

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Adelita Grijalva - learn that name, people.

If any Democrat is controlling government, it's Adelita Grijalva. Now hand the keys, Mike.

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