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[-] SnotFlickerman 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No EFI environment detected?

Sounds like someone deleted the EFI partition maybe.

Or the machine is so old it still has a BIOS.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Copyright line only mentions 2014, so I'm guessing it's 10 years old and only BIOS.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

UEFI first became common on new computers in 2011-2012, so I don’t a lot of 2014 computers were BIOS.

I have a cheapo laptop from 2012 (one of last Gateways) and it’s a UEFI machine.

At this point, I think 15 years ago is a more realistic estimate for the last legacy BIOS machines - my Win7 box with a 1st gen i5 is legacy BIOS.

[-] Drito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

My Lenovo from 2015 has an option to fallback to Bios. And I used it.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

That's pretty normal for most UEFI x86_64 things up to 2020 or so.

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Let's be gratefull it does not run win11 okay? (Or any windows for that matter)

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 week ago

I think (not 100% sure) that UEFI is a replacement for BIOS. All modern computers use UEFI.

People still colloquially call it "BIOS" because it serves a similar purpose, but there is a technical difference.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

That is correct, it's been quite awhile now since UEFI became standard but almost everyone still calls it the BIOS. Although I've noticed the word firmware is starting to be used more as well.

[-] Peffse@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

which is funny because firmware is a legacy term for what evolved into what is honestly software.

You don't need to socket any new chips nowadays.

[-] Truscape 7 points 1 week ago

I mean, if what we're using is pulled from a chipset on the motherboard whose storage space isn't rewritable from the OS interface, wouldn't that be called firmware? You are using a flash chip to boot after all.

[-] SnotFlickerman 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You are in fact correct. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is the modernized version of the very very old BIOS (Basic Input/Output System).

It brought a parade of improvements including the GPT (GUID [Global Unique Identifier] Parition Table) partition table replacing the old MBR (Master Boot Record) partition table.

[-] affenlehrer@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

Computer is a pretty broad term. Not all have or need a BIOS, e.g. in embedded systems.

[-] russjr08@bitforged.space 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, though I think the exception is (some?) ARM based PCs don't run UEFI, in which ARM in general doesn't have a universal standard for booting which adds complexity to it. Perhaps that's already changed though, I haven't kept up too well in the ARM space.

Not sure if maybe the Walmart self checkout terminals aren't x86 machines, perhaps they're ARM or another embedded type of system.

[-] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

When I used to work at Walmart in 2012, they still used MS-DOS for their signage

[-] tonyn@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

If it ain't broke...

[-] carotte 7 points 1 week ago

the machine used to manage schedules at the job i had this summer used windows XP

[-] spits@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

IDK where this is, but I repaired self checkouts in Oklahoma and Texas for years and they all had Windows. The regular registers looked like this when they booted. But going off the way the surrounding hardware is facing the same direction as the screen and what looks like a debit reader barely visible on the left and the printer on the right, it does look like a self checkout, just not one like I've ever seen.

[-] skiguy0123@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

This is in Ontario

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Sam’s Club doesn’t use windows for their machines. The self checkout uses some pervert proprietary version of Linux and the registers for humans have some java powered thing. No windows.

[-] spits@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, Sams club. Regular registers set up to be self checkouts. Yep, I remember that.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Open-source Mbrowser 52.2, packed with security features

Does anyone know where to find this?

EDIT: All I can find are the user agent strings which indicate that this might be some IBM product. Also, there's rv:52.0 in the environment part, but IBM Mbrowser/60.5.1 in the engines part - so the actual version of the browser component might be 60.5.1 in this case, not 52.x. (There's also a rv:60.0 with Mbrowser/60.9.0 - no IBM this time.)

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 5 points 1 week ago

Sudo apt-get huge friggin discount

[-] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe there were dual booting Windows and then a Windows update broke the boot partition

[-] skymtf 1 points 1 week ago

Is this in canada, I worked at the us Walmart and our registers used Java and our self checkouts ran windows 10 under Walmart UI.

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