you know, sometimes i just want to skip the 'learn how to press w to walk' part and get to the game. is that too much to ask? i've been playing games since before most of these devs were born, i think i know how to move.

"Hey you, you're finally awake."

The tutorial of Monster Hunter World is the most obnoxious shit I've ever seen. Multiple full pages of text it expects you to read and absorb.

Save that shit for the wiki.

So portal 1 is about 75% tutorial but it's done so well you don't mind.

The long grind tutorials have definitely put me off games before though especially in some older games.

The tutorial for Hollow Knight: Silksong was definitely super long. Took me about 50 hours to get 100%, and a lot more to master it, and I still struggled when I played the main game of Silksong. I didn't mind the extra long tutorial though, it was extremely well made.

A lot of older games assumed you’d never played a video game before so had quite extended tutorials. It’s a tough balance to get it right for complete novices and gnarled grognards alike.

One of the Tomb Raider games was some ridiculous discount on Steam, so i bought it. Cue interminable cutscenes and being given very brief control in order to walk a couple of paces forward before another cutscene. Or, even worse, the game taking over control of Lara for you.

I’d been playing 15-20 minutes - maybe even a little bit longer - when i decided “fuck this”, turned it off and never booted it again. Call me weird but i play games to play them. If it’s been that long and I’ve not experienced any gameplay then I’m not interested.

Considering that violence against npcs who have unskippable text or are veritably annoying is documented everywhere and seemingly laughed at by everyone,* I'd say you're not the only one. I know I've done it. How many memes have been reposted about an npc feeling dread as they watch the player character quicksave?

Tutorial specific is rare for me. I can't think of too many tutorials I get annoyed at.

*Just thinking off the top of my head: mods for children in skyrim, I know I saw videos about the subject in fable, there's an anime right now (shangri-la frontier) that dedicates a big chunk of the first episode to a character being exultant for the five seconds an annoying npc can be attacked, the memes I mentioned, oh god, the amount of hate patches gets, etc.

I never think about violence against the tutorial NPCs if the game doesn't have me beating them, but I'll gladly admit to being a full-time hater of games where the tutorial is either too long or too handholdy.

Games like Portal or Baba Is You? Perfect! Barely even feel any sort of tutorialization of any part of the game.

Games like Final Fantasy X? The tutorial goes on a little too long for me. Every few feet more enemies coming in and now we get to learn some new battle mrchanic. Or have some other dialogue slowing me down.

I think Fallout New Vegas does a real good job by allowing you to do as much as you want and just leave. The section at Doc Mitchell's house is also quick enough I'm not gonna scream.

Hell, even BioShock can sometimes feel a little lengthy when you combine the intro sequences and tutorial, at least up until you get your first plasmid.

This is why I dont care for any games made by cd projekt red. Tutorial goes on for fucking hours. Jesus christ let me just play.

Never - but if the tutorial is too boring, I just give up, quit the game and never open it again. If the tutorial is that tedious, I won't enjoy the game either, so it's just a waste of time. There's always more important stuff than some annoying game that won't even let me play it

Sometimes, yes.

Or shooting them.

"Ow, stop that nonsense!"