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[-] Armand1@lemmy.world 171 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Controversial take (though maybe not in this community):

If it's needed for survival, it should be free. No exceptions.

[-] Truscape 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Devil's advocate: Medi-CAL (California's Medicaid program, already known for being very permissive) will likely already cover it for the eligible, and should the $11 be used in aggregate to cover distribution and manufacturing for all of California's citizens, it would be a reasonable rate to keep the program self-sustaining.

Allotting an exception for the payment for those who may have difficulty seems like a reasonable way to cover any gaps while making sure it never runs into the red.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

The funny thing is if memory serves right insulin once you get it going is exceptionally cheap to produce. Unironically the 11 bucks may very well be the gross cost of production and transport per batch, probably not wages though.

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well America voted against food being considered essential for survival...

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Of course, but what California is doing is awesome, so why shit all over it?

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[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 131 points 2 weeks ago

No need to stop at insulin.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 136 points 2 weeks ago
[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

What I don’t like is that it follows the piecemeal approach that centrist liberals do where it is always too little and ineffective for the entire population which makes it mostly invisible.

“Let’s do socialism for 11% of the people while everyone else gets to pay taxes and get nothing”.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago

“Perfect is the enemy of the good”

Yeah no progress until we can instantly have 100% goal attainment!

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Don't forget to not vote next midterms or primaries to show Newsom and the Dems we mean business!

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[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Look, I'm all for incremental progress, but you don't start from a compromise position and then compromise further like the centrist Democrats have done whenever they've had power. You start with the hardline position (free, universal, single-payer healthcare funded by a progressive tax system) and then compromise from there only if necessary to get something done. Centrists stupidly think that they can get what they want without a fight by proposing something that's already a compromise, but the hardline conservatives are just going to fight anyway and the centrists are forced to negotiate. The result is that the right always gets a favorable outcome and the left feels betrayed.

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Like I said: gotta start somewhere.

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[-] florencia 84 points 2 weeks ago

We’ll see how many red-staters cross state lines to buy their evil, demonic $11 insulin.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 48 points 1 week ago

Watch them take advantage of this while acting like “California is the worst state”

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[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Millions, weekly.

[-] Matombo@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

and still spit fire und fury about that bein communism or something

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

As a Newsom hater, I have to admit this is a big win for everyone. While he's still very far from an actual solution to the country's root problems - you can vote for him (if that's an option), and then continue protesting and pushing for more reforms. I'm not quite as optimistic to believe this will happen, let alone succeed, but it's an idea.

[-] florencia 32 points 1 week ago

Newsom can be shamed into doing the right thing. Trump/Vance/Miller will disappear the shamers. Completely different realities.

The most transphobic version of Newsom is a return to needing several doctors to write a letter saying you are trans. We're already seeing Trump denying the right to exist and forcing the next generation of trans kids into navigating black markets for T shots or forced to grow with the wrong hormones.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

navigating black markets for T shots or forced to grow with the wrong hormones.

don't forget brewing your own

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[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago

$11 per month, that's only about double what it costs in most of the world. Wait... Still $11 PER PEN

Wtf did it cost before!!??

[-] Truscape 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a former pharmacy worker in California, anywhere from $40 to $200, depending on the patient's insurance. There's a reason Eli Lily and other companies monitor the supply truck drivers and call the cops if they stop.

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole, but I'm wondering is this ia CA paying the difference on what would be price gouging, or CA actually controlling the process, to erase any opportunity for that price gouging. That latter would likely be permanent, the former would last only as long as the administration isn't seeking budget cuts.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They're partnering with a non-profit 501(c)(3) generic manufacturer that was set up by groups of hospitals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civica_Rx

Seems as legit as you're going to find in the US.

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[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 weeks ago

I fucking loathe Newsome - but this is hard to complain about

[-] spudsrus@aussie.zone 32 points 1 week ago

For comparison...

In Aus I'm paying ~$32 for 25 pens

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

We have it decent in Australia, but for the Americans reading on, the bar is so ridiculously low you can walk over it.

I hope one day Medicare can actually be universal, and not the private subsidy model we have currently.

I dunno about you, but finding bulk billing is a pain the arse now, and in certain areas it simply doesn't exist. Not to mention my premium mouth bones which aren't covered for some stupid reason.

I just wish we'd finally kill off private health. Private health is such a scam we only take out because we have a two tiered system and there's a tax discount.

I really don't like Australians talking about how good we have it, when it's kinda meh, and actively getting worse.

That all being said, yeah, the PBS is pretty good and I'm glad insulin is affordable.

Thank Christ we didn't get the Libs back (for American readers, that's the conservative party), we could do SO much better given how wealthy we are per person.

But, anyone who doesn't want to pay more in tax in order to get truly public healthcare doesn't know how to do maths. We could just pay what we pay in private health premiums already, in tax, and we'd probably get way better care per person (because profit is inherently inefficient).

Abolish private health.

Thanks for being accosted with my rant.

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[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, I can't believe this is real

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Hey look! A liberal doing some actual fucking liberalism for once. What a nice change of pace.

[-] miked@piefed.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

Newsom is all over the place. Sometimes his position is straight from the GOP playbook (criminalizing being homeless) and sometimes it is liberal like this. He is trying to be everything while preparing for a '28 presidential run.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 25 points 2 weeks ago

I really wish Gavin Newsom would stop being transphobic so I could appreciate when he actually does good for people.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Some of the only good government policy I've seen in my lifetime.

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[-] Armand1@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

US trying to do a single thing not-for-profit challenge (apparently possible).

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[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Born with immune system that destroys its own insulin producing cells -> forced to pay $11 a week (depends on person) for the rest of your life.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Better than the 100 or so private companies are asking.

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I get what you are saying but it's still a step in the history of this:

Step 0: Die of diabetes as only option

Step 1: pay exorbitant pricing to NOT die of diabetes

Step 2: pay high but much more reasonable price to NOT die of diabetes

Step 3: ?????

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[-] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Definitely a win! It's important to note what type of insulin this is, insulin glargine (a long acting insulin). For those who are already on Lantus or Toujeo it will definitely be a plus. Hopefully next they'll do short acting insulins (lispro and aspart)

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago

We can't afford this, Argentina needs $40 billion so their leader can get a haircut that doesn't make him look like the manager of a rock band in the 70s.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not clear in the article, but I think this insulin is actually being manufactured in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civica_Rx

“Civica is growing U.S. generic drug manufacturing capabilities with a new 140,000 square-foot sterile injectable manufacturing facility in Petersburg, Virginia, representing a $124.5 million investment”

[-] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

I'm curious about the formula. My wife has jumped around a few different insulin companies and while they all had the same active ingredients, the inactive ingredients played a major part in her absorption.

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[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Can't wait for the border checks for "illegal" insulin

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